Things you need to be aware of when moving into NYS

[ckhthankgod]

Originally Posted by ContraPagan

That wasn't the point of my post. The point is that we have places upstate that can easily pass for parts of NYC, and can rival the crime rate. Upstate is also not as lilly-white as people think. We have a very wide variety of races/ethnicities up here.

Exactly...For instance, the first black and Hispanic mayors in the state came from the village of Cleveland north of Syracuse and Dunkirk(its current mayor). Buffalo, Rochester, Albany, Syracuse and Poughkeepsie have black percentages on par with Brooklyn and the Bronx, with areas of those cities with predominantly black neighborhoods. Amsterdam and Dunkirk are both around 25-30% Hispanic and that is largely Puerto Rican in both. Ithaca is about 17% Asian, with parts of bigger cities like Buffalo's West Side and Syracuse's North Side also having quite substantial Asian populations, let alone some suburbs like Niskayuna, Vestal, parts of Amherst, Menands, Brighton, Henrietta, DeWitt, etc. You can find areas with high Native American populations in/around the Native nations across the state as well. Utica I believe has the most culturally diverse school district in the state. This is why I still post to those threads, as people from Downstate/NYC or from outside of the state may not realize this.

Even on the Euro ethnic level, plenty of Italians in places like Utica's East Side into Frankfort, Lyncourt and Solvay in the Syracuse area, Endicott, Rome, Seneca Falls and while not as much as it was, areas like again Buffalo's West Side and Syracuse's North Side still have a presence. Rochester's West Side is similar and its western suburbs has a pretty big Italian presence in Gates, Greece and Chili.

Ukrainians came be found is substantial numbers in Syracuse's Tipperary Hill neighborhood on its West Side, with some in the western suburbs and into Auburn in its NW Quadrant.

Polish in Cheektowaga, Lackawanna, Johnson City, NY Mills/Yorkville(Utica area) and parts of cities big and small.

Irish in South Buffalo, Syracuse's Tipperary Hill neighborhood, Troy, etc. and into nearby suburbs.

French/French Canadians in the North Country and the mills towns in the Albany area.

There are other groups, but I think this gets to the point...

[JWRocks]

Originally Posted by ContraPagan

That wasn't the point of my post. The point is that we have places upstate that can easily pass for parts of NYC, and can rival the crime rate. Upstate is also not as lilly-white as people think. We have a very wide variety of races/ethnicities up here.

Yes, upstate has real cities, and real city problems. Our problems are all based upon government policy, that creates more problems than it repairs. Pretty sad, but the rulers and the sheep seem to like it that way

[ABQConvict]

Originally Posted by hotkarl

Exactly. Because you know, like Buffalo, Rochester, etc, are like the backwoods. Lol.
The misconceptions regarding NY are ridiculous.
People either think all of NY is Goomba ding dong types and real housewives of Lawn Guyland.
Or, EVERYTHING outside the metro area is backwoods hillbillies and rednecks.

Thank you. People are pretty ignorant about things outside their own state or region, and NY (NYC/NYS) being so high profile, the misconceptions are magnified.

[ckhthankgod]

Originally Posted by JWRocks

Yes, upstate has real cities, and real city problems. Our problems are all based upon government policy, that creates more problems than it repairs. Pretty sad, but the rulers and the sheep seem to like it that way

There are also people in the cities that are working to make their city/neighborhoods better as well. There are good things occurring in these cities as well. So, just like all cities, things vary and a lot of this either way don’t have anything to necessarily do with policy.