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Buffalo is a little bigger than Rochester, but these seem to be two of the more comparable cities in the country.
How would you compare the two cities neighborhoods? I basically see Buffalo and Rochester neighborhoods stacking up as:
Elmwood Village/Park Ave- Affluent residential neighborhood with commercial strips. Chippewa Street-Main Street/ Alexander Street-East Ave - downtown nightlife district Allentown/ Monroe Ave- Dense residential area with lots of nightlife. Larkville/South Wedge- revitalizing residential area. South Wedge seems to have more doing on. West Village Historic District/ some combination of Grove Place and Corn Hill- dense, urban historic urban district. University Heights/Collegetown- university commercial districts Hertel Ave/North Winton Village- less central residential/commercial area. Canalside/High Falls- tourism district. Probably the weakest comparison, as high falls is basically a failure at this point. Maybe Charlotte is a better comparison? ???/Neighborhood of the Arts- Fruit Belt-??
Maybe the Theatre District in Buffalo for the second to last comparison and perhaps Genesee-Jefferson in Rochester for the last neighborhood comparison.
Buffalo is a little bigger than Rochester, but these seem to be two of the more comparable cities in the country.
How would you compare the two cities neighborhoods? I basically see Buffalo and Rochester neighborhoods stacking up as:
Elmwood Village/Park Ave- Affluent residential neighborhood with commercial strips. Chippewa Street-Main Street/ Alexander Street-East Ave - downtown nightlife district Allentown/ Monroe Ave- Dense residential area with lots of nightlife. Larkville/South Wedge- revitalizing residential area. South Wedge seems to have more doing on. West Village Historic District/ some combination of Grove Place and Corn Hill- dense, urban historic urban district. University Heights/Collegetown- university commercial districts Hertel Ave/North Winton Village- less central residential/commercial area. Canalside/High Falls- tourism district. Probably the weakest comparison, as high falls is basically a failure at this point. Maybe Charlotte is a better comparison? ???/Neighborhood of the Arts- Fruit Belt-??
Shaky comparison, the 19th doesn't have any viable retail to speak of, and has extremely high crime rates.
Perhaps this is a matter of perspective, as both are predominantly black areas with a range of incomes from lower to straight middle class and have corridors with their share of black businesses(Thurston Road in Rochester and Bailey Avenue in Buffalo). Both also vary in terms of crime in terms of some parts being better than others. Both are also close to a major university(U of R and UB). So, those were the things I was thinking of in terms of that comparison.
Perhaps this is a matter of perspective, as both are predominantly black areas with a range of incomes from lower to straight middle class and have corridors with their share of black businesses(Thurston Road in Rochester and Bailey Avenue in Buffalo). Both also vary in terms of crime in terms of some parts being better than others. Both are also close to a major university(U of R and UB). So, those were the things I was thinking of in terms of that comparison.
I don't know the numbers, but I wouldn't say it's predominantly black. I remember 30 years ago parts of Thurston started to be developed almost like Park Ave. There was a restaurant called "Peaches". The whole block had other shops and was nice. Then there was a bank robbery and shooting, and all the good went away.
I don't know the numbers, but I wouldn't say it's predominantly black. I remember 30 years ago parts of Thurston started to be developed almost like Park Ave. There was a restaurant called "Peaches". The whole block had other shops and was nice. Then there was a bank robbery and shooting, and all the good went away.
I’ve also heard that some college students have been moving into rented or even bought homes in the neighborhood.
With Kensington, the area around/east of Eggert Road(one neighborhood map guide calls it Kensington Heights: https://library.buffalo.edu/maps/buf...s/lrg-map.html click on for more info.) up to the Cheektowaga border and near the border with Amherst have a middle class presence. This also spills over into the Cleveland Hill area of Cheektowaga and the LeBrun Road area of the Eggertsville area of Amherst.
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I’ve also heard that some college students have been moving into rented or even bought homes in the neighborhood.
The whole area by Plymouth and Genesee St. is college apartments. UR even had a pedestrian bridge refurbished crossing the river. The students also rent houses in the neighborhood.
RIT is also just down Scottsville road, but not walking distance.
Disclosure. I own a rental in the 19th. It has proven to be a very good investment. I have no student tenants. Also, there is a black lady across the street, but not a single other minority in the direct neighborhood. hmm
The whole area by Plymouth and Genesee St. is college apartments. UR even had a pedestrian bridge refurbished crossing the river. The students also rent houses in the neighborhood.
RIT is also just down Scottsville road, but not walking distance.
Disclosure. I own a rental in the 19th. It has proven to be a very good investment. I have no student tenants. Also, there is a black lady across the street, but not a single other minority in the direct neighborhood. hmm
Even those block groups have a decent black resident population and it likely depends on the street.
I was put on to the area to a sibling in law that is in real estate and I believe lived in the neighborhood at one time before their family moved to Gates. That is where I found out about parents literally buying homes in the area for their children going to college nearby, because of the affordability of the homes in the area and proximity to U of R and RIT(still a short drive). This has occurred in Syracuse near Syracuse University as well.
Again, many of the businesses listed for the Thurston Village article are black owned. There was a video on YouTube from a few years ago where some businesses owners were interviewed. I believe one was the owner of an ice cream shop and another a salon owner, if I’m not mistaken.
Plus, when the zip code that covers the neighborhood is 69% black, I would think that is tough to deny.
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