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09-03-2008, 03:50 PM
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Is there going to be a seperation between Upstate NY and Downstate NY
I heard, and read that Upstate and Downstate could possibly become entirely seperate entities.
There has been movements in the past calling for just this. Look it up in Wikipedia.
If this happens then the whole 2 new states are in deep trouble as this won't economically or culturally help New York
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09-03-2008, 07:10 PM
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There is such deep hostility between many regions of NYS... this has been a constant discussion... It almost seems as though everything from Albany East and South to NYC should find themselves seperated from the rest of NYS... It is an US vs THEM mentality in NYS... sad but true.
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09-03-2008, 07:23 PM
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sad but true...yet also totally understandable. The current policies in place just work differently for different parts of the state. For the msot part, NYC, Downstate, and Albany are more adaptable to the way things are set up in Albany, but for the rest of us, it just doesn't work. I think everything from Syracuse west should be it's own state, with the Adirondacks/St. Lawrence valley thrown in. And everything from Albany/Saratoga Springs east/south should stay NY state. Give Upstate NY some nice Native American name like Seneca or Niagara.
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09-03-2008, 07:42 PM
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Originally Posted by I'minformed2
sad but true...yet also totally understandable. The current policies in place just work differently for different parts of the state. For the msot part, NYC, Downstate, and Albany are more adaptable to the way things are set up in Albany, but for the rest of us, it just doesn't work. I think everything from Syracuse west should be it's own state, with the Adirondacks/St. Lawrence valley thrown in. And everything from Albany/Saratoga Springs east/south should stay NY state. Give Upstate NY some nice Native American name like Seneca or Niagara.
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Totally agree... Western and Central NY often get the short end of the stick... Let us be our own entity... have our own Govt... We aren't seen as equals in the states eyes anyway...
But I don't see it happening...
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09-03-2008, 09:30 PM
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Right, i should have mentioned that too. I don't see it happening within my lifetime unfortunately. I do however see the possibility of Albany getting the message that we are being really screwed over by their policies and finding a way to make it work for us.
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09-04-2008, 11:03 AM
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I don't agree that it should be a seperate state. We do need stronger representation in Albany though, so things here can get done.
I'm from The Bronx and when it came to decisions from Albany policy makers in regards to the Downstate area, they are much quicker to pass legislation and bills for NYC area benefit. Sad but true.
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09-04-2008, 02:38 PM
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I I'm from The Bronx and when it came to decisions from Albany policy makers in regards to the Downstate area, they are much quicker to pass legislation and bills for NYC area benefit. Sad but true.
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At least we have someone to back up all of our so called "WHINING" with personal experience...
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09-05-2008, 11:02 AM
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At least we have someone to back up all of our so called "WHINING" with personal experience...
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Hey I live here too so I gotta deal with the s*** like you do so fall back, yo. But it is true and who said anyone was whining??? Things just don't get done in Upstate as quickly as you would like because of a lack of significant representation
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09-05-2008, 01:16 PM
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Bronx...I believe that SKBS was saying she was thankful for your post and was agreeing with you...not insulting you.
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09-05-2008, 02:35 PM
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Bronx...I believe that SKBS was saying she was thankful for your post and was agreeing with you...not insulting you.
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Yes, Yo... that was what I was doin'... Yo  LOL Back Up... LOL
it was in total agreement...
Yo 
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