Albany vs Rochester (Buffalo, Syracuse, Utica: new home, layoffs, income)

[xamsx]

I personally don't care for Wegmans for many reasons, but I will say they upgrade OTHER chains grocery stores when they move into a region. If anyone here is familiar with metro-NYC grocery shopping you know that the grocery stores can be pretty sad. When we were house-hunting down near Woodbridge, NJ there was a Wegmans. The Shop-Rite, instead of being a little dinky crummy Shop-Rite that most of No. NJ enjoys was a full blown big-box grocery store that was clean and neat. The same for the Pathmark (although those tend to be a bit bigger generally).

[acnemaster]

Dont forget Wegman's!! Or jetblue...or the shrinking poulation and declining economy.
Honestly...I am just stating my opion. I like Albany better, why is that so hard for rochester people to hear? I'm just a nice 82 year old grandma that bakes cookies for my grandkids all day now that the Price of Right has been cancelled. Once in a while I get on here and contribute to the forumns and all you Rochester people gang up on me because I like my town...Wegman's or not.

Just be nice...I have athritis and a bad hip.

[JiminCT]

"Rochester has the most affluent communities in the census defined Upstate region (which unforuntely does include Albany) and has hosted several PGA tournaments at the presigious Oak Hill Country Club (ironically enough, they also host the WEGMANS tournament there)."

If you feel better about comparing yourselves to Buffalo and Syracuse...be my guest. I'm sure folks from Toledo, Dayton and Akron have these similar debates. Not sure who has the best supermarket in Ohio though.:P

[I'minformed2]

that was a comparison to Ablany too...I guess you skip parenthesis

[JiminCT]

"(which unforuntely does include Albany)"....

I'minformed...too much Rush isnt good for you. One day you'll learn.

[I'minformed2]

my dear lad.....read it again...slowly. Which unfortunately DOES include Albany...that means that the area I was referring to included Rochester, Buffalo, Syracuse AND Albany. I don't think there is any grade level at which I could compare the grammar skills necessary to process that sentance with....its just plain common sense. Knowing the difference between does and doesn't; never seemed like advanced grammar skills to me.

[JiminCT]

Why don't you show us a link to your Rochester stats to show us how affluent those areas are. We've heard all this nebulous hype..lets see some facts.

[JiminCT]

Why don't you post a link to prove just how affluent those Rochester communities are vs. the rest of the upstate cities mentioned. We have heard a lot of nebulous hype...lets see a link with some hard data.

I'll also share something with you from wikipedia....
Table of United States Combined Statistical Areas - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

2006 estimate 2000
Rochester-Seneca Falls-Batavia 1,128,989 1,131,543 -0.23%
Albany-Amsterdam-Schenetady 1,147,914 1,118,095 +2.67%

And the primary list...
Table of United States primary census statistical areas - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

But keep hyping Rochester...you are in company with Buffalo, Pittsburgh, Utica, and Syracuse as metro areas that are in decline...

[garmin239]

What does affluence have anything to do with very small population shifts (coming from wikipedia of all palces)? You are really grasping at straws.

[rochacha]

Don't forget to account for the Spitzer spend machine creating numerous public sector jobs. Those jobs will have the twofold effect of (1) likely be based in Albany, increasing the population; and (2) driving up spending and taxes, causing more people living in the rest of New York that depends on the private sector to leave. You might get your wish soon and all of New York will consist of just Albany and New York City. I'm not sure the economics of having 75% of the population employed in the public sector, but you better hope Wall Street has one hell of a year.