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Unread 11-21-2008, 11:06 AM
 
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Default best AIRLINE for pet transport us to france

Hi,

I am moving back to Europe and will bring my 2 cats with me.
I can't take TWO cats in the cabin, so they will have to travel as 'luggage' and this makes me very anxious.

Which company would you recommend or consider the safest to transport pets?
My candidates are
Air France
Continental
Delta
American Airlines

Thank you
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Unread 11-22-2008, 01:59 PM
 
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How important are they to you; & how much $$ do you have? Will they be vet-medicated for anxiety? I'd try to find a way to have both on board with you. If that means paying more to do so; even so far as another ticket for a chaperone to be in charge of the 2nd cat; I'd do it. If that's not a possibilty, contact an outfit like Cat Fancy magazine & see if they have any endorsements.

I worked in the airline industry for many years - 2 of them out of JFK. IMO, doesn't matter what airline you use, the service your cat gets will be dependent on too many factors out of your control. Weather for one. Too hot, too cold? How insulated is their animal compartment? Do they even have an animal compartment?

Is the pressure in that compartment the same as in the pressurized passenger cabin? How many animals can go in? Will the ramp agent have been trained/shown by anyone the proper way to load the carrier so it rcv's adequate airflow? So it won't slide around & tip or bang against something? If there are delays or cancellations - how will that affect your pets?

Believe me, I am NOT intentionally trying to scare you, but in this economy, with airlines shrinking the workforce, there is a very good chance the persons in charge of transporting your pet carrier will be rushed & inexperienced. I saw some sad things with animals when I worked for the airlines. Made me vow that no matter what, I wouldn't transport my dogs that way. Not to say there isn't success with pet transport as well, I hope you get some responses here saying exactly that. Just my own experiences, is all.
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Unread 11-22-2008, 09:53 PM
 
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Default American takes pets in the cabin

I would make the very best effort to take the cats on board and keep them with you. I know that American airlines allows you to take up to two cats but you have to have them in the same carrier. The last poster was right about airline workers at JFK and their lack of experience, I have heard the horror stories of pets being stowed in the wrong holding bin where the pressure was unregulated and the temperature uncontrolled. You do not want a catsicle when you arrive in Paris. Keep your cats with you in the cabin. You must have all your ducks in a row and have the vet certificate and check with France on any additional requirements. The airline and customs takes these things very seriously and make sure you have met all requirements before departure.
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Unread 11-24-2008, 12:20 PM
 
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Air France will let you take them in the cabin with you. Check with them asap as space is very limited on each flight.
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Unread 12-06-2008, 09:07 PM
 
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I would make the very best effort to take the cats on board and keep them with you. I know that American airlines allows you to take up to two cats but you have to have them in the same carrier.
No American airline - except United - allows pets in the cabin for international flights.

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Air France will let you take them in the cabin with you. Check with them asap as space is very limited on each flight.

For any air lines, I would need to have an other person flying with me in order to have my 2 cats with me in the cabin and I couldn't find anybody.

Air France has a weight limit smaller than my cats weight.
The only airline that would let me have them in the cabin - still one per person - is SWISS,but with one stop which will increase the travel time of at least 3 more hours.

I don't have any other options than to have them as "checked baggages", which doesn't make me happy.
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Unread 12-07-2008, 05:54 AM
 
Location: Tennessee bound...someday
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Is there any way you could post an ad (craig's list, travel forum, local paper?) looking for someone in your area who is already going to France? You could try to schedule yourself on the same flight & pay that person a fee to be "responsible" for carrying on the 2nd cat. It's a long shot, I know, but just trying to come up with something. Do you live near a large university? Maybe there is a student who is going to France to study... a foreign exchange program....

I really feel for you....I wish you'd hear from another poster or two that has transported their pets via cargo & has been just fine. What about posting this inquiry on a France forum, or a specific travel forum, or even on the pets forum? Hoping for the best for you....
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Unread 12-08-2008, 08:16 PM
 
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All the above suggestions are great and you should explore them all! Contact Best Friends (Best Friends Animal Society Home Page) and research this completely. Also, if you haven't done so already, you should post on the Pets - Cats board.

BTW, do not construe the earlier poster's comments as potential mishandling happening only at JFK. It happens throughout the airline system. As piperspa wrote: How important are your cats to you?

I just Googled "air transport of pets" and found Welcome to Air Animal Pet Moving Services. They claim they're pet movers since 1977. It looks promising. Let us know what you decide to do.

I love the idea of paying the air fare of someone to go with you so they can take a kitty. ( When are you going? I'd love to go to France. LOL BTW - I'm the "mom" of two 8-yr olds.)

Last edited by Nancy-NJ-NY-ME?; 12-08-2008 at 08:18 PM.. Reason: Add info.
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Unread 12-21-2008, 10:10 AM
 
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Is there any way you could post an ad (craig's list, travel forum, local paper?) looking for someone in your area who is already going to France?
I've tried, without success.

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I really feel for you....I wish you'd hear from another poster or two that has transported their pets via cargo & has been just fine. What about posting this inquiry on a France forum, or a specific travel forum, or even on the pets forum?
I tried every forum I could think of.
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Hoping for the best for you....
Thank you!

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I just Googled "air transport of pets" and found Welcome to Air Animal Pet Moving Services. They claim they're pet movers since 1977. It looks promising. Let us know what you decide to do.
I don't like the idea of having my cats away from me for too long. The shortest is still if they fly with me.

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I love the idea of paying the air fare of someone to go with you so they can take a kitty. ( When are you going? I'd love to go to France. LOL BTW - I'm the "mom" of two 8-yr olds.)


You see, even if I had another person traveling with me, the only airline I can take is SWISS, with a change of plane in Zurich or Geneva, which will extend the travel time of at least 3 hours.

I will be flying on Thursday with Air France, crossing my fingers that everything goes well.
And if I can avoid it, I will NEVER fly with animals again.
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Unread 12-21-2008, 11:58 AM
 
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best of luck to you - let us know everything is ok once you are there. I know how you feel - the last time I went home to Colorado for a visit, I drove so I could bring my dog along. I won't be crossing the Atlantic any time soon!

we will be sending positive thoughts your way!!
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Unread 01-05-2009, 05:00 AM
 
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I DID IT!!!

We are now all safe in Paris, but let me relate how everything went.

I flew with Air France. The people are very nice, but I was unable to get consistent information.

Paperwork:
I had the health Certificate done by my vet, 3 weeks before departure and the European Certificate, also done at my vet, also 3 weeks before departure.
I decided to have the papers endorsed bt the USDA vet at JFK, one week before departure, thinking that if something was not ok, I would still have time to correct it.

I had been told that the USDA vet had to fill out a form 7001 (International health certificate), but the JFK vet said that I didn't need it, because Air France doesn't require it.
I must say that I stressed until the day of departure, since I didn't get the same infos everywhere.

Stickers:
For example, I have been told that I would get the "Animal Alive" stickers at the check-in counter.
Every other airline I checked had such stickers, but NOT Air France and for the simple reason that they don't require them.
I spent so much time trying to find them and then, they don't require them!!!!
I am still glad I had them all over the carriers.
I also had the name of the cat and contact phone numbers written in HUGE letters on each carrier.

Check-In:
They asked me to come 3 hours before departure, which I did, but then, they tell me that it was too early to get the cats and to assign me a sit (???) and to come back an hour later (???!!!!).

She checked that the rabies was up to date and that is more or less all.
I was very relieved that the paperwork was ok.

So an hour later I went to the check-in shelter they told me to go to, waited until they called my name.
Then they said that if I wanted I could wait with the cats a little bit before they take them to the custom area.
Which I did. Then they came to pick them up and had me coming with them, which was nice.
I had a security belt around each carrier, which was not a problem. I said good-bye and then had to go through the security line.
In the meantime, I see that it was the "final call" for my flight!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I had to pass to the front of the line and got my flight, but wasn't happy about all that last minute stress!!!!

At the arrival airport:
I asked at the check-in, in the plane, at the plane exit where I would get the cats in Paris and no one seemed really to know!!!!!
The general opinion was with my luggages.
When you see how the suitcases jump onto the rolling mat, it was not very reassuring!!!

I waited, got my luggages but no cats to see.
Luckily I had met at JFK a young man, a cat lover, who waited with me at CDG (Paris airport) until I got my cats back.
While I waited with the luggages, he went through the airport and discovered the 2 carriers alone ion the middle of the area, close to the custom.
ANYONE could have taken them!!!
I was furious!!!!!
Pastel seemed ok, even showed her little face - at the check-in she disappeared under the covers and I had to lift the carrier from time to time to be sure she was still in it!
Fripou was shaking and I am not sure why. When we landed it was below 32°F and the plane was very far from the terminal, so maybe he got cold.

I put the 2 carriers on top of the 2 suitcases and we walked to the customs.
The "funny" thing was that It was the young man with 1 small suitcase they stopped and not me.

I went though the custom without having to show any paperwork!
It was very surprising to me and I don't know if this is usual or, because it was 6AM, they didn't wanted to have to deal with animals ...

Anywayyyyy ... this is all behind us and I am very glad it is.!

Patricia, now in Paris with 2 happy kitties!!!
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