Around Binghamton

[ckhthankgod]

Originally Posted by cardboy2454

silly me, i thought if you lived in rochester you lived in rochester but now you are saying that you may live in rochester but you really don't for all intents and purposes live 'in' rochester its just a mailing address or a gps number to find your way home because even though you may drive around it on the loop or thru it or be known as a rochester resident you really are not because you didn't make any stops inside the city lines as that would destroy the whole logic of not living in rochester even though its kind of near by. i get it. thanks for the enlightenment. so when you live in rochester and people ask where you live do you say buffalo because next to rochester that would be the closest city to rochester?

Huh?

[cardboy2454]

Originally Posted by ckhthankgod

Where are these friends from and where do they go in Upstate NY?

these friends are from toronto where you can eat off the streets so maybe their standards are higher but i doubt they were driving thru downtown rochester or buffalo or syracuse. the whole state is in sad neglect everywhere. you live here all the time you may get used to it but when i was a kid here before 'urban renewal' destroyed anything we did not have parking lots in downtown they were occupied by buildings. we have streets 12 foot wide and as a kid it was so crowded i walked on the curbs. you go to other states that are on the ball and sometimes every house in an older neighborhood has been updated and kept up, here we have entire neighborhoods falling into disrepair and no way to repair them when the politicians are taxing evryone to death.

[ckhthankgod]

Originally Posted by cardboy2454

these friends are from toronto where you can eat off the streets so maybe their standards are higher but i doubt they were driving thru downtown rochester or buffalo or syracuse. the whole state is in sad neglect everywhere. you live here all the time you may get used to it but when i was a kid here before 'urban renewal' destroyed anything we did not have parking lots in downtown they were occupied by buildings. we have streets 12 foot wide and as a kid it was so crowded i walked on the curbs. you go to other states that are on the ball and sometimes every house in an older neighborhood has been updated and kept up, here we have entire neighborhoods falling into disrepair and no way to repair them when the politicians are taxing evryone to death.

While I understand what you are saying, the flip side is that in other places, they have built up too fast. So, the surplus leads to neglect as well.

Also, many other regions in the country are almost completely reliant on cars and are so spread out. So, that limits options.

There are still areas of many cities in Upstate NY that have nice older homes that are kept up. If you are even in Syracuse, go to neighborhoods like Strathmore, Sedgwick, Scottholm and other developments in the Meadowbrook neighborhood and the South Valley area, among a few others to see what I'm talking about.

[cardboy2454]

Originally Posted by ckhthankgod

Huh?

huh? huh? here let me spell it for you. you live in a suburb of buffalo, thats buffalo, i am going to judge downtown because that downtown shows where the community is at good or bad, if you want to ignore and defy reality like it doesn't affect you because you live in the burbs you are just kidding yourself. the only people making it in the burbs are walmart and sam's club and other people not from town but that downtown was the old center of commerce and people from your community used to take that money home. same with cars, they may make a honda here now but the 10,000. profit on that vehicle goes back to japan and thats the bottom line. so when you say downtown does not matter you may be mistaken as its a sign of finacial health for the area. its great sam walmart does so well but the inner cities left to rot? is that an answer?

[cardboy2454]

listen, i don't know where you are from but americans want to own and drive their own cars, not take public transportation. try taking away our cars and you will see a revolution. comes right after mother and just before apple pie, don't mess with our cars and trucks, make them more fuel efficient, run them on deer dodo but get out of my way when i'am on the road my friend.

[cardboy2454]

Originally Posted by ckhthankgod

While I understand what you are saying, the flip side is that in other places, they have built up too fast. So, the surplus leads to neglect as well.

Also, many other regions in the country are almost completely reliant on cars and are so spread out. So, that limits options.

There are still areas of many cities in Upstate NY that have nice older homes that are kept up. If you are even in Syracuse, go to neighborhoods like Strathmore, Sedgwick, Scottholm and other developments in the Meadowbrook neighborhood and the South Valley area, among a few others to see what I'm talking about.

right, you have to look for places that are kept up, lots of neighborhoods are nice, many developments in the west were overbuilt and now are empty and neglected but thats there and people were speculating on the real estate boom. my brother did it during the internet bubble, could not buy a stock that did not go up, thought he was a genius. now its all gone in 1 burst. i'am talking about our slower paced northeast, our region is alittle different from florida and vegas. we did not adapt to change quick enough and now we pay.

[ckhthankgod]

Originally Posted by cardboy2454

listen, i don't know where you are from but americans want to own and drive their own cars, not take public transportation. try taking away our cars and you will see a revolution. comes right after mother and just before apple pie, don't mess with our cars and trucks, make them more fuel efficient, run them on deer dodo but get out of my way when i'am on the road my friend.

My point is that people want transportation options too.

[yousexybeast]

I've noticed that binghamton is doing alot of construction around town but binghamton isn't that bad as people say it is I would say westside is the worst of all sides east side is o.k and northside is best on the interior south side is beautiful. As for the citys around binghamton I would say Chenango is more rural,Endicott and Endwell is gorgeous,Port Dickinson is the subburbs and Johnson City is o.k.

[ckhthankgod]

Originally Posted by yousexybeast

I've noticed that binghamton is doing alot of construction around town but binghamton isn't that bad as people say it is I would say westside is the worst of all sides east side is o.k and northside is best on the interior south side is beautiful. As for the citys around binghamton I would say Chenango is more rural,Endicott and Endwell is gorgeous,Port Dickinson is the subburbs and Johnson City is o.k.

I thought the West Side has some of the best neighborhoods in the city. I hear that the First Ward has the worst rep and considering that crime in the Binghamton area isn't that bad, it's all relative. Binghamton's West Side doesn't look too bad here either: Binghamton's West Side , West Side Neighborhood Association [WSNA]

[Tioga]

After trying to answer to a lot of negative comments about the southern tier over the last few years here, I now will just offer useful info to those who are definitely moving here. Those who hate the area I no longer care to debate with...they have their minds made up....they should experience some of the so-called "great" areas to relocate to........they have their flaws,too.