Who else is moving to North Carolina? (Champlain, Florida: relocation, housing)

[mmdj43]

Originally Posted by gsulliv4

I was working downtown that day. Watched the whole thing from my office window and walked back to Astoria across the 59th Street Bridge.

I like my odds in Raleigh over NYC any day. I was just in New York last week and there is a real sense of tension everywhere you go now. I wouldn't move back there in a million years.

My brother was dating a girl for almost 2 years who lost her life on that day. What is ironic is that she didn't even work downtown. She was attending a trade show that day. And she was with a good friend of hers who also attended the trade show with her; her friend was married to someone whose brother worked as a chef at Windows of the World. So this man lost his wife and his brother. But whether we knew someone or not that died that day, it had a huge affect on everyone.

[enlightenme]

Originally Posted by NYer

The whole Yankee thing is perplexing to me since so many NYers are from families that emigrated AFTER the civil war, we are so recently Americans that we are just not engaged in the issue, it is hard to even feel insulted by the term! ( although when I start hearing it there I predict I will learn!)
Our ancestors for the most part, were not in the US during the civil war, and we learn about that war is school, from a very northern perspective, b/c to sympathize with the south would be seen as racist.

I am born and raised CA, but I have been called a Yankee in Canada. I wonder if I will be one in NC too? Anyway, I liked your point about learning about the Civil War in school from a northern perspective because it made me realize that is how it is taught in CA too. At least the schools I went to made you think you would be a racist if you sided with the south and it would mean you supported slavery. It is also strange to me how caught up people still seem to be about the war and the "us vs them" mentality with the south and the north. I feel like Switzerland in CA! I stopped thinking about the war after I passed my Civil War history test in school, but this forum makes me realize I need to brush up on my American history....

[southernnative]

A lot of us in the South believe that the Civil War was more about state's rights than about slavery. Most people in the South didn't even have slaves, and yet they fought just as willingly as did the slave owners.

There probably are still some people here who dwell on the war, but most don't.

[Bethanytedder]

As far as that goes, there are people that dwell on any war whether it be the Civil War or the Vietnam War. I don't imagine that the ones that either went to war and survived or the ones that lost loved ones in a war can get over it. Although I have to agree that it is time the Civil War is a page in our history books. There are no ones living that served in that war and neither are the family members of the ones that were lost. There comes a time to let bygones be bygones. As for what actually happened between 1861-1865, I only know from history books. I did have a great, great grandfather that was in the Southern Army but be died long before I was born. But relatives that lived after I was born told my family that when he returned, they were terrified of him. Has anyone see "Oldest Living Confederate Widow" with Don Southerland and Diane Lane? From what I gathered, he was kinda like Southerland's character.

[mhogan10010]

I grew up in Detroit, but had Southern Roots. My folks were from Western NC. I went to college in TN and lived in NC 12 years. I found it interesting that my Southern friends, especially the ones from Alabama, Georgia and Virginia, seemed to have a much more extensive knowledge about the Civil War than I did or my Northern buddies. I mean they could give you chapter and verse.....Seems I don't remember that extensive immersion in the Civil War in school in MI. And I had to learn the hard way about the Southern perspective on the War of Northern Aggression. A friend stopped talking to me for a couple of weeks when I said I always thought that the Civil War was about slavery..boy did he set me straight in no uncertain terms. I really hesitate to mention this, but I do see find it ironic that the section of the country that went to war over states rights, seems to support all kinds of federalization on issues that used to be decided by individual states. I may be wrong, but it does seem odd.
As far as Californians go, yes you're a Yankee too. I really believe that for some, the term has expanded to mean anyone not born in the Southeast or Southwest. Growing up in the Midwest, I never thought of myself as a Yankee till I moved South.
As I am reading this it occurs to me that in 7 years in NYC, apart from when I worked in a book store and worked in the History section of the store, I haven't even had one conversation that included the civil war.
Guess we're too busy up her slamming the current war.

[MrTudo]

Originally Posted by Weis02

One thing to be mindful of Fl vs. NC...Fl did not have the ecomony as NC does...more companies and jobs are going there, the same does not hold true for Fl.

Point of fact is the state that is responsible for the vast majority of real estate sold in NC has been Florida .

[southernnative]

Mhogan10010, what kinds of issues on federalization are being supported by those from the South? (I'm not saying you're wrong - I'm just curious about the specific ones.)

[rjones1016]

I am reading a lot about the south not being accepting of northerners. Are the northerners accepting of people moving up from the south? My husband and I are thinking of relocating our family to the NE. Will we be considered southern hicks?- Even though we are not!
Thanks-

[Catrick]

I was born in Chicago and lived there for 18 years. I have spent the last 35 years in south Florida, which is truly not considered as being in the "south". I have always been a history buff and have read extensively about the Civil war. Mostly because it was brother against brother and was a defining time in this county. I have read many books by noted historians including the great Shelby Foote. Over the years on vacations we would stop and visit Civil war National Parks (much to the "delight" of my children.) The war was about many things-preserving the Union, State's rights, ending slavery and of course, money. But after walking Bloody Lane in Antietem and walking in Gettysburg where the men walked in Pickett's Charge I have found myself on the side of the common soldier on both sides. As always it is the common man that pays the price of war. Things that should have worked out between the north and the south as far back as when this country was born was left always for the next generation to deal with until it came to a head. Slavery was wrong but as it was pointed out, many of the Southern Soldiers didn't even know what a slave was. They were fighting for their homes. Men on both sides had honorable reasons for why they fought. And as always, both sides and cruel and merciless soldiers. But the vast majority were honorable and brave. And many paid a horrible price. Also the slaves that were freed paid a price also. It was like, here you are free and on your own. If the dreaded reconstruction era had been handled correctly there would be now most likely no hard feelings. But the North had to be the bully winners and make life in the South hell for most who lived there.
We all have our differences but as 9/11 showed us, when someone messes with us, we become untied and no one better mess with us. That is the strength of this great Country. We are united.

Sorry for the dissertation but maybe it will help people have a better understanding and respect for the people living in the South.

[NYer]

Originally Posted by rjones1016

I am reading a lot about the south not being accepting of northerners. Are the northerners accepting of people moving up from the south? My husband and I are thinking of relocating our family to the NE. Will we be considered southern hicks?- Even though we are not!
Thanks-

My experience of Long Island is that people make all sorts of jokes about origins & ethnicity but tend to do it in good fun and accept you for who you are. Of course there are racist and nasty people but you will find them everywhere. I think that I might better describe it by saying that many NY ers speak their minds, get things out in the open, work through them & move on, rather than smile to your face & whisper behind your back. So, expect some ribbing, and then probably questions about the food down there... & the weather...