Newburgh, NY: Police State (New York, Albany: crime rate, house, buying)

[Jason_Els]

Most Newburgh businesses will need to shut down before midnight

and

Press Release

City of Newburgh
83 Broadway, Newburgh, N.Y. 12550
(845) 5697354 – (845) 5697370
For immediate release

May 1, 2007

City of Newburgh Police Department to Begin Enforcement of
Local Law Affecting Business Hours of Operation May 4

The City of Newburgh Police Department will soon begin enforcement of Local Law 189, Hours of Operation. Police officers handdelivered notices in English and Spanish to merchants affected by the ordinance a few weeks ago, and enforcement is slated to begin the weekend of May 4. The law was originally passed by the City Council in 2002.

Under the law, many retail establishments will be required to close between the hours of 11 p.m. and 5 a.m. The exceptions are as follows:

· Restaurants
· Bars
· Any establishments otherwise regulated by state laws or other regulations that preempt the regulation of hours by the City.
· Bowling alleys
· Billiard parlors
· Barber shops & beauty parlors
· Gas stations
· Hotels & motels
· Pharmacies or the pharmacy section of any store (the remainder of the store must remain closed) - City of Newburgh Press Release (broken link)

[mom2gurls]

Thanks...a friend lives there and I just wanted to send a link.

[unknown stuntman]

Most all of southern NY state is a "police state"!

[NewToYorkSC]

I grew up in Beacon, so I have seen what has happened to Newburgh. When I was in high school, we used to go to the library at the end of Broadway by the river for research. Now I wouldn't dare go anywhere near Broadway after dusk. I thinkthe closing early is a GREAT idea. Keep people safer.
The TOWN of Newburgh and it's outskirts are nice. They have really tried to revitalize the waterfront. But I wouldn't go a block up away from the waterfront at all.

[Jason_Els]

Maybe it would be better to keep people safer by adequately policing the city rather than restricting the rights of the people who live, work, and pay for the city services?

[beanchokiki]

it is truly a shame. OUr state needs to take a look at what is going on in these types of towns. Start getting people in our govt to actually do something besides raise our taxes. I currently live in Haverstraw and they are doing a revitaliazation of the village. It has more to go but from what I understand it is much better now than even just ten years ago. I love the rive and it has so much to offer. Haverstraw was once known as hollywood on the hudson..imagine that. Maybe newburgh can get someone in there to revitilize things..what a beautiful place it would be and can be if some sort of effort was put into it.

[vangoghsear]

Originally Posted by beanchokiki

it is truly a shame. OUr state needs to take a look at what is going on in these types of towns. Start getting people in our govt to actually do something besides raise our taxes. I currently live in Haverstraw and they are doing a revitaliazation of the village. It has more to go but from what I understand it is much better now than even just ten years ago. I love the rive and it has so much to offer. Haverstraw was once known as hollywood on the hudson..imagine that. Maybe newburgh can get someone in there to revitilize things..what a beautiful place it would be and can be if some sort of effort was put into it.

things here will probably never get any better, because the few people that do put money into the city, like my landlord, generally do not live here... as long as the state provides the outrageous rent subsidies it does, then landlords will refuse to improve their properties since they are given monies based on the number of bedrooms, not the size or condition of the unit they are renting. this makes it very easy for buildings to remain in very poor condition: why put money into improving a structure when there is no need to? maximizing the profit gained from a piece of real estate is what it's all about, and that isn't just here, this is america, where the bankroll rules... the east end, both north and south of broadway do have what were at one time, beautiful houses, but the most of these have been carved up into miniscule apartments to maximize profit. single family homes have been turned into two, three and even four family apartments... the riverfront looks better, some bars and restaurants, but the only art gallery down there just closed...

[citychik]

The Wikipedia article on Newburgh is pretty interesting.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newburgh_(city),_New_York

Seems its problems have been long-standing:
http://www.time.com/time/magazine/ar...8174-1,00.html

Someone recently told me that Newburgh was one of the first places in the country to have welfare, which wound up attracting lots of people who just wanted a hand-out and didn't care much about the community. We were visiting Washington's HQ when he told me this. I was shocked by the decrepitude of the town on the way. Lots of cool historic architecture, but I made sure my car door was locked.

[msbzness]

Originally Posted by vangoghsear

Don't bother coming to Newburgh, NY unless you like living in a police state. As of today, there are no stores allowed to be open after 11:30 PM because of the incompetence of the local police force, and the simple-mindedness of the city council in managing this city. A new ordinance they have put into effect, done with as little fanfare as possible, that is to say, as quietly as possible so there would be no uproar, has made it illegal for stores to stay open after 11:30 PM, ostensibly to prevent small time drug dealers from operating in the vicinity of neighborhood stores, but in reality, is a simple way for the city and the police department to further control the lives of it's citizens. The city has spent a large sum of money purchasing and installing surveillance cameras, the purpose of which was to reduce crime. Now this. Apparently, just having the ability to arbitrarily spy on citizens on the streets wasn't enough. Now the city council has decided they want to keep people locked up indoors at a time of their choosing. The next step will be the police department stopping and searching any person seen on the streets whenever they feel like it, or perhaps the institution of a curfew for all citizens will come first. Nevermind that there are people like myself that work nights, and that at times there are things I need to purchase at the end of my shift. We are lumped together with the drug dealers because it is simpler for the city to feel it has the right to operate in this fashion. If I need to purchase something, I can go to a gas station convenience store I am told. Well that is convenient for the gas station owner, but hardly for someone with a rather small disposable income like myself who shouldn't have to pay those kinds of inflated prices for things. I have to wonder if the reason for the gas station exemption isn't because the few here are owned by members of the city council or their friends. Anyway, anyone looking for a small city with something called "quality of life" would best be served searching elsewhere.

make sure in your posts that you make the distinction between city of newburgh and town of newburgh

[vangoghsear]

Originally Posted by msbzness

make sure in your posts that you make the distinction between city of newburgh and town of newburgh

newburgh, ny always refers to the city of newburgh... when one refers to the town of newburgh, they say the town of newburgh... no distinction is necessary...