Upper Middle class african-american communities in ny (White Plains, Valhalla: relocating, housing)

[tionne317]

I hear Mt Vernon is a dump. Wouldn't recommend.

[scatman]

Originally Posted by Hustla718

Hahaha! Please tell me your kidding. Those are FAR from middle class Black neighborhoods.

Tell that to Maya Angelou, who's bought a two family Brownstone on 120th and Morningside, now worth $3.4 million.

Although there's low income, there are plenty of middle class Blacks in Bed Stuy and Clinton Hill. Those brownstones are very attractive, and you'll find some have owned their property for years!

With regard to single-family homes, Southeast Queens has been an African-American mainstay since the end of WWII. In fact, Queens is the only county in America where Black median income is more than whites. Just like Abyssinian in Harlem, Allen Cathedral is doing a lot of development in Southeastern Queens.

Only one thing....stay away from those private lenders and subprime mortgages, which have decimated much of that area. On the other hand, you could get a nice foreclosure in SEQ.

[Hustla718]

Originally Posted by scatman

Tell that to Maya Angelou, who's bought a two family Brownstone on 120th and Morningside, now worth $3.4 million.

Although there's low income, there are plenty of middle class Blacks in Bed Stuy and Clinton Hill. Those brownstones are very attractive, and you'll find some have owned their property for years!

With regard to single-family homes, Southeast Queens has been an African-American mainstay since the end of WWII. In fact, Queens is the only county in America where Black median income is more than whites. Just like Abyssinian in Harlem, Allen Cathedral is doing a lot of development in Southeastern Queens.

Only one thing....stay away from those private lenders and subprime mortgages, which have decimated much of that area. On the other hand, you could get a nice foreclosure in SEQ.

Area is a low income ghetto. His income status is a minority there and due to the conditions of the neighborhoods I wouldn't even call him middle class. Harlem is a low income struggling neighborhood, from the Harlem to the Hudson River. The neighbohood is full of poverty.

While he paid 3.4 Million dollars for a brownstone (or whatever the price at the time), his neighbors are paying 200 dollars a month on section 8. I would never pay big money like that for Harlem.

Crown Heights/Bedstuy same as above.

As for southeast Queens income, a lot of that has to do with Cambria Heights.

[scatman]

Originally Posted by Hustla718

Area is a low income ghetto. His income status is a minority there and due to the conditions of the neighborhoods I wouldn't even call him middle class. Harlem is a low income struggling neighborhood, from the Harlem to the Hudson River. The neighbohood is full of poverty.

While he paid 3.4 Million dollars for a brownstone (or whatever the price at the time), his neighbors are paying 200 dollars a month on section 8. I would never pay big money like that for Harlem.

Crown Heights/Bedstuy same as above.

As for southeast Queens income, a lot of that has to do with Cambria Heights.

Uh, Maya Angelou is a woman...a famous woman at that....a world renowned author and poet!

Residing in North Carolina, Angelou was looking for a brownstone in Harlem and told friends in New York about it. Ashford and Simpson saw the property, and put down 10K. Angelou got it the property, dilapidated at the time, for an undisclosed sum! After renovations plus appreciation, it's now worth $3.4 million.

Hustla, I have to disagree with with regard to places to avoid. Seems like famous and upper income people are trying to hop to Harlem. Thou shall not live on Compstat alone!

Read this.....

....plus, read a book by Lance Freeman called "There Goes The Hood: Gentrification from the Ground Up"

....and see Harlem for yourself! I did, and, even with the hangouts at 125 and Lex, it's better than it was in the late 70s! Oh, yeah, how do you explain British guys giving my mom directions on 125th Street?

[Hustla718]

Originally Posted by scatman

Uh, Maya Angelou is a woman...a famous woman at that....a world renowned author and poet!

Residing in North Carolina, Angelou was looking for a brownstone in Harlem and told friends in New York about it. Ashford and Simpson saw the property, and put down 10K. Angelou got it the property, dilapidated at the time, for an undisclosed sum! After renovations plus appreciation, it's now worth $3.4 million.

Hustla, I have to disagree with with regard to places to avoid. Seems like famous and upper income people are trying to hop to Harlem. Thou shall not live on Compstat alone!

Read this.....

....plus, read a book by Lance Freeman called "There Goes The Hood: Gentrification from the Ground Up"

....and see Harlem for yourself! I did, and, even with the hangouts at 125 and Lex, it's better than it was in the late 70s! Oh, yeah, how do you explain British guys giving my mom directions on 125th Street?

Well 10k is a good deal for a home. So she came off lucky. However anyone who would pay 3.4 million for it now is an idiot.

As for E 125th Street and Lex. I know that location well. It's a robbery hot spot. That Pathmark is home to a lot of illegal activity, which is why so many people hang out there.

[scatman]

Originally Posted by Hustla718

Well 10k is a good deal for a home. So she came off lucky. However anyone who would pay 3.4 million for it now is an idiot.

As for E 125th Street and Lex. I know that location well. It's a robbery hot spot. That Pathmark is home to a lot of illegal activity, which is why so many people hang out there.

The 10K was the deposit.

Is it just me, or do you seriously believe that all predominantly neighborhoods of color are to be avoided?

[brattpowered]

I would recommend Mount Vernon. The northern part of the city is very nice. The area around Esplanade, near Central Mount Vernon, is predominantly black and is full of large, well maintained homes.

[brattpowered]

p.s. I believe the name of that neighborhood in Mount Vernon is Oakwood Heights.

[mead]

Is that the neighborhood next to Bronxville? Thats the one I was talking about previously. Drove thru there one day (after driving thru Bronxville and being in awe of the ammount of wealth in that town) and was seriously impressed with the housing stock. Saw lots of black folks driving expensive BMWs and Mercedes.

[Hustla718]

Originally Posted by scatman

The 10K was the deposit.

Is it just me, or do you seriously believe that all predominantly neighborhoods of color are to be avoided?

I recomended Cambria Heights, a Black neighborhood. An actual middle class area. Harlem is NOT.

Sadly, most Black and Latino areas in the city are horrible neighborhoods.