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Old 07-01-2008, 11:08 AM
 
Location: NY
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My observations were the complete opposite. I find the further you go south, the nicer the people tend to get. While I was in NYC (well just Manhattan), nobody said excuse me or please or thank you or held the door open. Nobody. People just groan, stare, push, roll their eyes and continue with their dog eat dog lifestyle.

It's sad that the amount of ignorant people around the city outweigh the people living in NYC that don't have the attitude.. I know several people that have been living in NYC for years and love it and don't carry the "attitude" that everyone else does... maybe it's just the fast pace and stress that puts people in a less-than-pleasant mood.
That's just Manhattan and I would be hard pressed to label all Manhattanites as "true NY'ers". Most people you find in the city are transplants, most people who are from the NYC area live in the outerboroughs and there is definately more of a sense of community in Brooklyn, Queens, SI, and BX than Manhattan.
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Old 07-01-2008, 12:25 PM
 
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That's just Manhattan and I would be hard pressed to label all Manhattanites as "true NY'ers". Most people you find in the city are transplants, most people who are from the NYC area live in the outerboroughs and there is definately more of a sense of community in Brooklyn, Queens, SI, and BX than Manhattan.
Maybe... I can't comment on the other boroughs because, as I said before, I haven't been there. All the people I know personally in NYC and like are in Brooklyn and the Bronx.
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Old 07-01-2008, 03:16 PM
 
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Maybe... I can't comment on the other boroughs because, as I said before, I haven't been there. All the people I know personally in NYC and like are in Brooklyn and the Bronx.
All the people you know personally in NYC and like are in Brooklyn and Bronx? So you are saying that the only people you know who are from NYC are from the boroughs of Brooklyn and the Bronx, and they have an "attitude" even though they are not in NYC. Like was trying to point out if you live in the outer boroughs of NYC their is more of a sense of community. Staten Island is one of the most community oriented boroughs I can think of. You definately don't feel like you're in NYC when you're on SI.
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Old 07-01-2008, 05:42 PM
 
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All the people you know personally in NYC and like are in Brooklyn and Bronx? So you are saying that the only people you know who are from NYC are from the boroughs of Brooklyn and the Bronx, and they have an "attitude" even though they are not in NYC. Like was trying to point out if you live in the outer boroughs of NYC their is more of a sense of community. Staten Island is one of the most community oriented boroughs I can think of. You definately don't feel like you're in NYC when you're on SI.
I was saying the people I knew personally without the attitude lived in Brooklyn and the Bronx. The people I've met but don't "know" personally with the attitude were in Manhattan since it's the only borough I've been to.
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Old 07-05-2008, 06:07 PM
 
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Here are 50 reasons why I tolerate that NYC "attitude", besides the fact that I was born and raised here.

1) One Fish Two Fish on 97th and Madison
2) The view of Manhattan on the horizon as you return from a drive down south.
3) Mid December on Fifth Ave. looking into Rockefeller Plaza at the Christmas Tree with your family.
4) Jackson Hole on 85th and Columbus.
5) Nell's on West 14th St.
6) The aroma of peanuts roasting as you come out of the subway.
7) Some of the most beautiful women in the world.
8) 2 outs, bottom of the 9th, Yankee Stadium after somebody just hit the winning homerun.
9) The friendliest bartenders in the world.
10) McDonald's without mustard.
11) The best spanish food outside of Puerto Rico.
12) Orchard Beach in June
13) City Island on payday.
14) The Empire State Building.
15) Madison Square Garden.
16) Willie's Burgers on 145th st. and Eighth Ave.
17) Is there a better place for steak than Peter Luger?
18) Real Bagels
19) Bodegas
20) Empire Skates in Brooklyn
21) Brooklyn
22) Junior's Cheesecakes
23) White Castle's at 4:30 in the morning
24) Shea Stadium on Merengue Night.
25) The San Genaro Feast
26) The Roosevelt Island Tram
27) Oh my God, Central Park
28) The Bronx Zoo
29) Caroline's, Dangerfield's, Catch a Rising Star
30) The Port Authority Bowling Lanes after 9:00pm
31) Dallas BBQ's on 72nd st.
32) 7 miles of shoreline in The Rockaways.
33) The Copacabana
34) The Apollo
35) The Statue of Liberty
36) Washington Square Park
37) Rucker Park, home of "The GOAT".
38) You live in the birthplace of Hip Hop
39) Donald Trump isn't done yet.
40) Did I mention the women.
41) Some of the greatest people in the world live here.
42) Some cabbies are no longer scared to death of Black people.
43) The most unhealthy, best tasting Chinese food outside of China.
44) Coney Island
45) The Best, hands down Best, barbers in the country.
46) Street vendors as far as the eye can see.
47) Grand Central, Port Authority, LaGuardia and JFK Airports only minutes away.
48) Where else can you sit completely undisturbed enough to fall asleep on a crowded subway, and yet unable to sleep all alone in your own apartment?
49) Where else do complete strangers line up to give blood just because.
50) Once again, the women.

Need I say more?
51) Radio City Music Hall, with the Rockettes, there you have beautiful women! 52) City Center, 53) Lincoln Center, 54) The NY Public Library, 55) Broadway, 56) Of Broadway, 57) Off, Off Broadway, 58) South Street Seaport, 59) River to River Festivals! 60) The best fireworks in the world, thanks to Macy's NY, 61) A multitude of Ethnic Parades, 62) Over 200 languages spoken daily! 63) The best Pizza in the world, thin, and crusty! 64) Over 2,500 restaurants! 65) The Fashion Industry, 66) The Financial Center of the world, 67) The Flower Market, with fresh flowers from all over the world, 68) Best transportation system in the world, 69) The Sports Team, and 70) The Brooklyn Bridge, the Verrazzano, and all the multitude of tunnels and other bridges we have. 71) Very intelligent people. 72) And lastly......... .........THE MEN, most of them are beautiful, also. I am sure, I have left many other things out. And that is why we are called the Center of the World! Now, your #42 was very funny. "Some cabbies are no longer scared of Black people." Now, we have the reverse: The Black people are scared of the cabbies!.......... All of these is what makes New York such a unique place, and in my travels, I often encounter people who have left NY, for supposedly, greener pastures. But, I hear it all the time, "I MISS NEW YORK, dearly! However, for all those people who are unhappy here, or can no longer afford to leave here, there is New Jersey, it has a multitude of apartments, and Delaware, with its tax-free benefits! SAYONARA!
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Old 07-08-2008, 09:26 PM
 
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The smaller towns of Orange County, most of Ulster County, and northward will likely seem laid back enough. All depends on how quiet and rural you want life.

There's certainly a NYC "attitude", lifestyle and pace to life. The city life isn't for everyone..I know I would go nuts living in any city. If you are looking for a good location to be able to enjoy the city on weekends while living a slower paced life (without being completely in the boonies) I'd start with:

Montgomery, Walden outskirts, Maybrook (Orange County)
Plenty of resturants and shopping, easy trans to NYC via bus or train. Housing market has been fairly stable but buyers still have some real bargains to pick from. property/school taxes are a kick tho at around 3K per 100K value. Figure at least 5K in taxes, 9K+ if you have a large, newer, 2400 sq ft home.
Wallkill, New Paltz (Ulster)
Wallkill will get you lower taxes and perhaps more acreage. New Paltz outskirts very nice, the town itself is a college town. Apple orchards and fruit stands are dotted between the 2 towns, as well as lovely views of the Shawangunk Mountains. Pretty laid back.
Goshen, Minisink, Scotchtown (Middletown outskirts - also Orange)
Very good shopping and food. A bit cheaper taxes than Montgomery, Walden areas. Slightly cheaper housing.

What I like about these areas is you can have a nice, private home with the deer in the front yard, lightning bugs and crickets chirping - yet be able to hop in your car and drive just a little bit to do something. It lets people find their own comfort zone, be it is a house on Main St in a small town, or a house on 5 acres that is off some quiet dirt road 5 miles from town.
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Old 07-09-2008, 01:17 AM
 
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The attitude is why people come to NY.
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Old 07-13-2008, 05:27 AM
 
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Most "Manhattanites" with the attitude I've found are usually hipsters and yunnies who are non-natives from hotbeds like Akron, Cleveland, or Rochester that think that is the way to behave in NYC. Most real NYC area natives have a sense of humor.
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Old 07-13-2008, 05:41 PM
 
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I agree with that Jiminct, having lived upstate before moving to Staten Island 10 years ago, attitude is everywhere.Maybe a little more obvious in these highly populated,conjested areas of the 5 boros. Impatience can be seen as attitude and the pace here is definately quicker than say Elmira,Utica,etc. I've experienced attitude in the Fingerlakes, which has a very laid back pace, so go figure.
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Old 07-16-2008, 07:25 PM
 
Location: Ulster County
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That's just Manhattan and I would be hard pressed to label all Manhattanites as "true NY'ers". Most people you find in the city are transplants, most people who are from the NYC area live in the outerboroughs and there is definately more of a sense of community in Brooklyn, Queens, SI, and BX than Manhattan.
I agree. Can't tell you how many times people have started conversations just because they're comfortable being who they,("we") are in the neighborhood, on the platform, wherever. Transplants in Manhattan have to act like the stereotype "cool".
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