Hey all New Yorkers I miss NY, moved south feel like I made a BIG mistake! (Buffalo: realty)

[ClarkStreetKid]

Nancy,
Like I said on the other thread, Richmond and Charlottesville are both nice places to live. My wife and I are both native NYer's and we both love it here. Come on down and enjoy yourself.

[VA Yankee]

Originally Posted by Terrapin2212

My state of Maryland was in the Union in the Civil War and I'm Asian American (my parents are immigrants) and I still hate the North outside of all this.

First of all ya'll dont' respect our way of life and your destroy whatever place you move to. I can never go back to the little town I grew up in because you've turned it into all mini-malls and fast food. You come here with your shallow tastes like you go into communities across America and you homogenize us. You refuse to adapt to our way of life. You refuse to acknowledge or show any interest in the way we do things...you insist on doing things your way and your way alone.

Also I am sick and tired of everyone from the north looking down on anyone outside the Northeast and Calilfornia, all your endless comments about "hicks" and "rednecks" and "trailer trash". This uppitiness and arrogance and intolerance really turns people off. You also give Americans a bad name and are responsible for a lot of the values problems happening in this country today.

Sorry for being bitter but after Virginia Tech I can't help but think its the culture you people have created that contributed to the tragedy. Your PC tolerance of Goths, punks, heavy metal music, death metal. Your taking our guns away so we can't protect ourselves. Your always blaming the victim for any tragedy the way you think the shooter being teased gave him a right to murder innocent poeple or how the U.S. somehow desrved 9-11 because of our foreign policy. How you people laugh and take pleasure in disasters in the south like the floods in Texas.

You can tell from that female reporter on ABC News that she thinks the Texans she's reporting about are beneath her and her arrogance shows through in her voice as she was reporting for Charles Gibson tonight. You people always laugh like we deserve hurricanes and all and the same thing happens when tornados hit the Midwest. Also Hillary Clinton, John Kerry, and Ted Kennedy with their arrogant, self-righteous know it all attitude epitomizes everything that we hate about New York and the Northeast.

After reading your view points I have one thing to say TAKE A PILL!!!!

Destruction of small town America is nation wide and contrary to what you imply the contractors & companies are not all from the north. As others wrote; if the towns do not allow it; it won't occure. But people I know who have lived in small towns here in Virginia said they welcomed stores like Walmart because it created jobs and they no longer had to be price gouged by the local merchants or travel great length to get what they needed.

Your way of life? What makes any culture superior over another? I have lived in VA for 25 years after growing up in NY and yes certain things I miss like a loaf of bread with crust. But there are also things down south I enjoy that have become part of my life. Twenty Five years ago many of the stereotypes would have held true outside the cities. Much of the south was very insular from what had occured in the rest of the country this was not necessarily good because much of it was based on racial segregation. So now I can get a bagel in Richmond or a Krispy Cream Donut in NY is that progress or what.

When disasters occure regardless of the location nobody laughs. It's probably safe to say that Northern NJ floods as much as some Gulf Coast areas. What I laugh at is when people choose to move back in to these suseptable areas. A flood plain is a flood plain and it will flood again...

Finally, I don't know why but Senator Clinton chose to represent NY. For the record she is from Arkansas and last I know that is part of the South so don't blame NY for her. As for pompus arrogance I can think of several elected officials from the south who match this bill. No area of the country has a monopoly on this one.

[BrianH1970]

Originally Posted by Terrapin2212

That's cause nobody wants to move to your area except possibily illegal aliens....if even they are interested. Your pomposity and arrogance turns people off. i came upon this thread cause it was on top in the forum. You people alreayd messed up Maryland, especially the areas about Washington, D.C. changing our pace of life. People here used to friendly like further south, strangers used to talk to one another, people would let you pass if you signaled instead of speed up to prevent you from passing just for the sake of preventing you.

You New Yorkers, New Jerseyans and Californians move ot other places and force us to change to be just like you. You want a slower pace of life. Whenever you move to a town, your destory the town and transform it to all fast food, chain restaurants and big box stores because that's the way it is in New Jersey. You destroy our local businesses and want the SOuth to be like your hometown where everyone is greedy and materialistic where if your waitress is nice she's just acting because she wants an extra big tip rather than her really being nice like in the south and the midwest.

Ya'll destroyed my state and my community even more than the illegals. At least many illegals upon finding out that in America you don't blast your radio at 1AM or litter everywhere they actually make an effort to change and respect us. You New YOrkers are different. You refuse to change the way you act and respect the way we do things in the rest of the nation. You honk when someone makes a complete stop at a stop sign. You curse when someone is nice and slows down to let another car pass.

Guess what we don't want your here in Maryland, North Carolina, FLORIDA, or anywhere. I'm glad your taking your Hillary Clinton loving arrogant, pushy selves back to New York.

With this sort of syntax I can almost hear the V-Tech killer making this same speech. It sounds like his alternate manifesto.

[gshanemiller]

I largely agree that the original poster is way off center.

I moved from California to Richmond, VA and it took me fully two years to make the change. I would have left except my wife was from the area and she helped to secure friends. We stayed in Richmond for ten years with two kids and a wonderful low cost of living in a wonderful house (Ginter Park). We had wonderful friends and great family relations. Right now it sets the benchmark I need to meet or exceed.

Originally I took the south's ability to use manners, not interrupt, and listen as being wussy-boy push-overs who are stupid, wittless and have no sense of urgency or passion. I took the happen stance of running into somebody I knew in town as an insult: because that could only happen in small towns where the only thing to talk about was nothing or nothing of any import anyway. After all this was the south.

All that went to show my lack of broad mindedness and my lack of world experience. I was the problem.

I now work in Manhattan and am in the process of moving to NY/NJ. I'm now on the receiving end of some of the same rudeness I used to dish out. A person from H/R actually had the nerve to say hello? (i.e. anybody home between the ears idoiot?) when I left a micosecond of dead air on the phone before responding. I was thinking. Because in NY if you're not in a hurry there must be something wrong with you. I mean, c'mon.

In another incident a guy actually said I shouldn't be intimidated in giving forth my opinion (we were meeting with internal customers). All I was doing was listening and being very polite. But some people cannot tell the difference between that and weakness/stupidity. Some people can't tell the difference between the act of being nice to get something and being nice for the sake of being nice.

Of course the south can pose its own challenges. Richmonder's are not the open, spill your guts and go out their way to include you that California people are. You have to work to make friends. And it's a far more conservative state/town. Richmonders do not have the same respect for time as mid-westerners do. My next door neighbor was a transplant from the midwest and correctly, IMHO, berated Richmond contractors for not doing what they say they're going to do when they say they're going to get it down by. Consequently finding reliable contractors is a small miracle and you grow to really appreciate them. (We did extensive improvements to our house). In the midwest that's far less likely to be a problem.

My experience reminded me that moving even within the US can pose real challenges. It reminded me that my experience just wasn't the broad minded, flexible, mature mind I thought it was. Hopefully I'm far smarter today than 10+ years ago. Now just imagine if you moved to the US from France/China/Japan or India where the changes are far more deep?

NYC is a far more intellectual city that Richmond. I still think you could get the level of intellectual rigor in NC or in a university town in the south. I did software and it seemed like I always had plenty to keep me thinking about. Anyway it makes sense that NYC is a rush: it's a far more conjested city requiring significantly more time to commute. And when time is money you can't afford to be falling asleep. Of course that isn't the problem per se. The problem the mind still expects the same thing even when the environment neither demands it or is totally different.

[Chi2NYC?]

Originally Posted by gshanemiller

Anyway it makes sense that NYC is a rush: it's a far more conjested city requiring significantly more time to commute. And when time is money you can't afford to be falling asleep. Of course that isn't the problem per se. The problem the mind still expects the same thing even when the environment neither demands it or is totally different.

great point. i think it's a big thing that some southerners ultimately resent about some northern transplants--that a faster and more impersonal pace of life is being expected of them for what they see as no discernable good reason.

[2goldens]

[quote=Songbird42;778649]HockeyMom..........you will find that moving to Fl. will be "different" than living on the Island, true, there are many, many, Long Islanders here, and there are alot of things you can't get here but only up North......a great rye bread, a hard roll, true corn beef sandwich, Italian Ices, a great bakery I would die for, NY pizza............here the water is full of condensation so the dough, crust and bakery items are so so.

Yes! How true! I miss the NY food! The Floridians have no idea what pizza is!

[takemehome]

missNY...there's no place like home!

[mn242]

Just returned from a trip to the Catskills and central NY. Virtually every town we visited was disintegrating with the exception of Cooperstown, which relies on $$ from BB tourism.Delaware county, particularly Fleishmanns, is not the tourist mecca it appears to be from the website and brochures. Sure, Rhinebeck and Great Barrington (across the border in MA) are beautiful, but it's not complicated to understand why the state is losing so many of its native sons and daughters. We live in NC and miss the Northeast desperately, but NY is not the same place it was when we finished college in 1972 and left for jobs elsewhere. What a profound disappointment it was... and to get back to the point of this thread, although we don't love living in NC, we have not experienced any of the kind of meanness expressed by the original poster with respect to our "yankee" status. In fact, most people here are reasonably polite, unlike many (not all) of the rude jerks we experienced during our trip "home". As to New Yorkers in Charlotte, I have personally witnessed idiotic behavior (screaming at customer service reps in a store for example), that would naturally alienate anyone. Most Charlotte folk are polite, and many are from elsewhere. The population in smaller towns in the area, particularly foo foo Davidson, where we now live, are downright pleasant.

[bellafinzi]

mn242, Sorry to hear your trip didn't go well. I'd be interested in hearing which other towns you visited....

[mn242]

thanks. we visited Saugerties, Woodstock (fun but $$) Margaretville, Andes, Bovina, Roxbury (virtually every town in eastern Delaware County), Oneonta, Cooperstown, Rhinebeck, Columbia County including Hudson and Catskill, western Mass (Great Barrington, Stockbridge-both very nice and very $$). Also drove South on 17 through the old borscht belt towns of Monticello, Liberty, Wurtsboro etc. Nicest towns we visited by far were Cooperstown, Great Barrington/Stockbridge, Woodstock (though very commercial/touristy). Most of the state is economically deprived but stunningly beautiful. Gorgeous greek revival, italinate victorians falling down everywhere and every now and then there is one that's maintained. Prices of homes are outrageous, esp when considering condition, property taxes and the general economic malaise of the state. We were hoping for some improvement but it's worse than 5-10 years ago. We would have liked nothing better than to identify our retirement dream town, but to no avail. Looked at houses selling for 500K on 20 acres (or much less), that were dumps. 2nd home market is driving up prices anywhere inside of a 3 hr drive to NYC, killing the locals, and insuring that folks like us won't return. Still have to digest the trip but that's the feeling now.

mn242