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Old 06-02-2010, 06:16 AM
 
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I agree. I'm OK with salaries for the top dog of a school district. What is annoying that there are 3-5 asst superindentants under the superindentant that make close (if not more than) to $200k. If I'm paying someone, big bucks, does he/she really need all these assistants?

I do think they work year round.....
The more that school districts are made accountable to federal and state standards, the more staff you need to be responsible for knowing and ensuring guidelines are met.

The more that school districts necessitate outside grant dollars, the more staff you need to both complete the grants and the ensure compliance with the rules of the grant and the execution of the program to which the money was granted.

I call it a double-edged sword because the more the public and politicians "demand accountability" the more money it takes to run a school.
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Old 06-02-2010, 07:05 AM
 
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I thought administrators work all year, unlike teachers. I could be wrong. Running a school district is like running a corporation, so I don't think we should be surprised to see the high salaries. If you want good administrators, you have to pay them well. Any school district that low-balls its top administrators' salaries is only going to be able to hire people at the "bottom of the barrel". Sad but true. Same thing goes for teachers. The high salary situation for administrators and teachers is never going to change on Long Island, so why keep complaining about it?
Another common myth. Administrators "work" the summer...but they get 20 vacation days as per their contract and they get the same days off teachers get during the school year. So in fact they "work" about 200 days a year. Plus I'm sure their "work" day during the summer must be brutal
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Old 06-02-2010, 07:30 AM
 
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A former co-worker just left to take a job in the business office of a school district and they have "summer hours" which she was very excited about.

That list must be slightly outdated as Prendergast hasn't been super in GC for at least 4-5 years and I believe her replacement makes about $247K.

As KBInspections said it's not necessarily the superintendents, it's all their underlings that are ballooning the costs. In GC alone I think they've added 8 administrative positions over the last 5 years.
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Old 06-02-2010, 07:31 AM
 
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Default So, IL is right.

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Another common myth. Administrators "work" the summer...but they get 20 vacation days as per their contract and they get the same days off teachers get during the school year. So in fact they "work" about 200 days a year. Plus I'm sure their "work" day during the summer must be brutal
So, you agree that they do work during the summer. However, because you are cynical, you operate with the unsupported assumption that they aren't doing anything during that time?
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Old 06-02-2010, 08:16 AM
 
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So, you agree that they do work during the summer. However, because you are cynical, you operate with the unsupported assumption that they aren't doing anything during that time?
What kind of company ceases operations for 2.5 months out of the year and maintains a busy (or as busy) workload? The assumption may be unsupported but it's not illogical. Common sense is very uncommon.
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Old 06-02-2010, 08:21 AM
 
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What kind of company ceases operations for 2.5 months out of the year and maintains a busy (or as busy) workload? The assumption may be unsupported but it's not illogical. Common sense is very uncommon.
Hotels and amusement parks virtually close down during the winter months. Amusement parks in the north shut down in the winter. Convention halls are most busy when there is work, but you don't lay off the management when they aren't booked.

The pursuit of money, the fulfillment of state obligations, hiring, in-service preparation, arrangement for faculty development, equipment upgrade, grounds management, new rules compliance, record keeping - these need to be done year round.

Do you have reason to believe that they don't need to be done?
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Old 06-02-2010, 08:34 AM
 
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Hotels and amusement parks virtually close down during the winter months. Amusement parks in the north shut down in the winter. Convention halls are most busy when there is work, but you don't lay off the management when they aren't booked.

The pursuit of money, the fulfillment of state obligations, hiring, in-service preparation, arrangement for faculty development, equipment upgrade, grounds management, new rules compliance, record keeping - these need to be done year round.

Do you have reason to believe that they don't need to be done?
Your comparisons are terrible and not applicable. I don't dispute that there is work involved during the summer, but things like "new rules compliance" and "record keeping" don't appear to me like it would comprise the full time job that running the school during the school year would entail.
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Old 06-02-2010, 08:40 AM
 
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Your comparisons are terrible and not applicable. I don't dispute that there is work involved during the summer, but things like "new rules compliance" and "record keeping" don't appear to me like it would comprise the full time job that running the school during the school year would entail.
Your argument makes more sense if you conveniently shave down the longer list - like you did.

And your experience with managing schools is what?
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Old 06-02-2010, 08:52 AM
 
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Much of school administration are useless and overpaid. NY has layers and layers of administration driving up costs with overpaid salaries and amazing benefits. We need to fire or layoff a good number of these people. Education costs are driving this state into bankruptcy and getting rid of some of the layers of useless administrators(among other things) is a step in the right direction.
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Old 06-04-2010, 03:01 PM
 
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I voted my budget down this year because they added 3 administrators and cut 15 teaching positions and increased my class size to 29 / class. For the amount of taxes we pay on LI we should not have such a large class size. Do you we really need to add administrator and cut teachers ? What happened to it all about the kids ? Increasing the class size is not about the kids. I feel the only way to get heard is to vote NO. When you go to the PTA meetings the Board does not want to hear that you don't want bigger classes and more administrators...
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