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Old 06-10-2010, 09:46 PM
 
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It obviously doesn't do much for their GDP per capita



That's fine and dandy but your previous post said that "Syracuse has the second biggest economic influence in the state and is 38th in the country"



Syracuse may have some regional influence but the per capita GDP data shows that, at the end of the day, the other upstate cities have a much greater economic influence.
Again, I'm talking about in terms of regional coverage. I never said anything about the GDP. A lot of people within the coverage area come to Syracuse and contribute to the economy too. So, it didn't say anything about GDP for the area on that list. You can be fine with your choice without having to twist everything, you know.
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Old 07-11-2010, 07:24 AM
 
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As useless as forbes lists are...

Buffalo, Albany, Syracuse, and Rochester all ranked. Go upstate!

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Of course, the only city on your list that is upstate is Albany. Syracuse is central and Rochester and buffalo are western.
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Old 07-11-2010, 07:22 PM
 
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Huh? It's ALL upstate New York. There is no "Upstate" that is separate from where Syracuse, Rochester and Buffalo are located.
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Old 07-11-2010, 08:53 PM
 
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There's upstate NY, central NY, there's the southern tier, northern NY, western NY etc. It's all upstate to people who live in NYC perhaps. but no, it's not "all upstate".
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Old 07-12-2010, 12:24 PM
 
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There's upstate NY, central NY, there's the southern tier, northern NY, western NY etc. It's all upstate to people who live in NYC perhaps. but no, it's not "all upstate".
Yes, it is all Upstate NY. Upstate NY has it's regions, but in general, all of it is Upstate NY.
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Old 07-13-2010, 07:18 AM
 
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Of course, the only city on your list that is upstate is Albany. Syracuse is central and Rochester and buffalo are western.
Upstate NY has *always* been considered anything north of NYC and its surrounding metro... I'd say anything above Poughkeepsie.

That said, I don't see where your righteous indignation is coming from... if you drew an east-west crossline for NY state, you'd see that Albany is *below* ALL of the other major "upstate" cities. Farther south than Buffalo, Rochester AND Syracuse. We're all further "up" than Albany.

http://www.soccerhall.com/graphics/NewYorkStateMap.jpg (broken link)
http://www.soccerhall.com/graphics/NewYorkStateMap.jpg (broken link)
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Old 07-13-2010, 03:17 PM
 
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What righteous indignation? I voiced an opinion. Gosh, what's the big deal? Bizarre.

Since you insist though, I'll carry on. If you will look carefully at that map you will see that Rochester and Buffalo, while they may be "up" from NYC and Albany both, are WEST. They are in WESTERN New York. Plattsburg and environs are NORTH, and are NORTHERN New York. Oh, and I don't live in Albany, I live in Central New York. But the NYC tourist people and NYC and Long Island college students call us Upstate NY. I grew up in actual Upstate New York though, dead in the middle of it: Saratoga.
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Old 07-13-2010, 10:13 PM
 
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What righteous indignation? I voiced an opinion. Gosh, what's the big deal? Bizarre.

Since you insist though, I'll carry on. If you will look carefully at that map you will see that Rochester and Buffalo, while they may be "up" from NYC and Albany both, are WEST. They are in WESTERN New York. Plattsburg and environs are NORTH, and are NORTHERN New York. Oh, and I don't live in Albany, I live in Central New York. But the NYC tourist people and NYC and Long Island college students call us Upstate NY. I grew up in actual Upstate New York though, dead in the middle of it: Saratoga.
If you will look carefully at that map you will see that Albany and Saratoga, while they may be "up" from NYC, are EAST. They are in EASTERN New York. See what I'm [you're] saying? lol - it's all upstate NY. Yes, REALLY.

Oh- and I live in Central New York also and am well aware of what downstaters call us, as about half of my family lives there.

(Gotta love our NY'er directness! lol)
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Old 07-14-2010, 05:56 AM
 
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LOL. I've never heard any place called Eastern NY, good point! I guess I'd call TROY Eastern NY.
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Old 07-14-2010, 06:24 AM
 
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LOL. I've never heard any place called Eastern NY, good point! I guess I'd call TROY Eastern NY.
They call that area the Capital Region. Sometimes people refer to the area along the Mohawk River the Mohawk Valley. So, there are plenty of regions with Upstate NY.
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