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Old 06-07-2010, 08:41 PM
 
Location: Buffalo, New York
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As useless as forbes lists are...

Buffalo, Albany, Syracuse, and Rochester all ranked. Go upstate!

http://www.forbes.com/2010/06/04/bes...ids_slide.html
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Old 06-08-2010, 05:11 AM
 
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Most miserable places to live:

America's most miserable cities - MSN Real Estate

Buffalo is #8. I suspect syracuse is too small to be ranked

So Forbes is basically telling us that Buffalo is a miserable city that's great to raise your family in.
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Old 06-08-2010, 08:26 AM
 
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Most miserable places to live:

America's most miserable cities - MSN Real Estate

Buffalo is #8. I suspect syracuse is too small to be ranked

So Forbes is basically telling us that Buffalo is a miserable city that's great to raise your family in.
What is the criteria for the most miserable cities? Weather probably has something to do with it.

Also, I think that when you look at another Forbes list (Bang For Your Buck cities), you will see results that coincide with the list the OP posted. So, it might be pertaining to costs and what is in these areas in terms of crime, school options and commute times, among other things.
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Old 06-08-2010, 05:06 PM
 
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What is the criteria for the most miserable cities? Weather probably has something to do with it.
If you read the article, it's right in there:

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Our Misery Measure takes into account unemployment, as well as eight other issues that cause people anguish. The metrics include taxes (both sales and income), commute times, violent crime and how its pro sports teams have fared over the past two years. We also factored in two indexes put together by Portland, Ore., researcher Bert Sperling that gauge weather and Superfund pollution sites. Lastly, we considered corruption based on convictions of public officials in each area as tracked by the Public Integrity Section of the U.S. Department of Justice.

We expanded the list of cities under consideration this year to include the 200 largest metropolitan statistical areas (in years past, we've examined 150), which led to a shuffling in the ranks. Any area with a population of more than 245,000 was eligible.
Syracuse is too small to compete, given its population of around 150,000 or so.
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Old 06-08-2010, 07:44 PM
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Location: Where my bills arrive
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The article said a good place to raise a family. They didn't mention the ability to get a decent job or the weather. It would appear most of the cities mentioned fall within the snow belts.
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Old 06-09-2010, 04:34 AM
 
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If you read the article, it's right in there:

Syracuse is too small to compete, given its population of around 150,000 or so.
Actually, the article says the "metropolitan area", which Syracuse more than qualifies for... the official MSA states Syracuse as having approximately three-quarters of a million residents while the true Central New York area (I would say those who would likely say that they lived in a suburb of Syracuse and are within a half hour drive of it) is more like 1M people.
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Old 06-09-2010, 04:51 AM
 
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I've learned to take these 'great places' with a grain of salt.
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Old 06-09-2010, 04:56 AM
 
Location: NH
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So we can blame the Misery Index on Ralph Wilson?
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Old 06-09-2010, 08:57 AM
 
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Actually, the article says the "metropolitan area", which Syracuse more than qualifies for... the official MSA states Syracuse as having approximately three-quarters of a million residents while the true Central New York area (I would say those who would likely say that they lived in a suburb of Syracuse and are within a half hour drive of it) is more like 1M people.
Exactly and you could say the population of what some consider CNY goes over 1 million, as the Utica-Rome metro has around 300k with Oneida and Herkimer counties and the Ithaca metro has around 150k with Tompkins and Cortland counties. This is added with the Syracuse CSA which has around 750k. Some might even include parts of the Southern Tier and the North Country too. Syracuse has the second biggest economic influence in the state and is 38th in the country. I will post the website I got that from later.
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Old 06-09-2010, 09:06 AM
 
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Syracuse has the second biggest economic influence in the state and is 38th in the country. I will post the website I got that from later.
I find that hard to believe considering all of the industry that Buffalo has traditionally had, as well as Rochester being the traditional "optics" powerhouse of the country (not to mention U of R is probably the most reknown medical center in upstate IMO)
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