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View Poll Results: Can an alpha male be a nice guy?
No - except in rare circumstances 24 36.36%
Yes - it happens commonly, not rarely 42 63.64%
Voters: 66. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 02-09-2012, 06:46 AM
 
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Well you generally have to want to be an alpha male to be one, unless you just naturally dominate due to physical size or assertiveness.
the easiest place to find an alpha male is on television.

if you're in a bar in some small town, and Brad Pitt walks in , do you think he has to beat someone up to be the 'dominant person' in the room?

You can sit there and grit your teeth and deny reality, but the bottom line is that almost everyone in the bar (men and women) wants to go talk to him.
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Old 02-09-2012, 06:57 AM
 
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Many young males, frustrated at the lack of female attention/success in dating, often blame it on being 'too nice.' ...
In nature, alpha males kind of HAVE to be tough and ruthless, when you think about it. They have to fight males, be belligerent and confrontational (just playing their role). There's no room for compassion and sensitivity.
I disagree with your definition of "alpha male" and the requirements you refer to, as well as your statement about compassion. Perhaps it's just my different perspective, but I've known many strong men that are very powerful in their occupations, and also compassionate and sensitive in their personal lives. It's sort of like pro sports. They play hard and mean on the field, but the aggression ends there when the game is over.

Those that cannot separate the two are just immature and haven't woken up to the fact that they are screwing up.
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Old 02-09-2012, 07:13 AM
 
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First of all, outside etology, the expression "alpha male" is only used by bullied nerds who attend "PUA" seminars, so delete that expression from your vocabulary already.
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Old 02-09-2012, 07:29 AM
 
Location: NC
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Your idea of nice guy sounds like a p*ssy.

Your ideas seem off. Way off



Alpha male can be respectful and nice without being a pushover to women and listening to what guy they banged the night before

Honestly, I hate the term alpha male, i just think of some guy on the jersey shore.

You hit the nail on the head. An alpha male doesn't have to even think about these things and he can most certainly be a complete gentleman. There are many different definitions of sensitivity....

It really is a state of being -

1) you have a natural presence that people just respect and listen to you
2) not afraid to step into situation if needed and resolve it
3) gets attention from women just because of the way one carries oneself
4) doesn't mind rejection or someone tell them no, just moves along
5) doesn't over-analyze and second guess EVERYTHING
6) not afraid to make the first move or VOICE what they want


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Old 02-09-2012, 07:36 AM
 
Location: Rhode Island
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Whom is screwing up? Your statement is unclear. Now if you mean those of us making reasoned arguments against the validity of alphadom then you are immature for personal attack.
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Old 02-09-2012, 07:42 AM
 
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True alphas aren't bullies, they're just natural leaders. Alpha characteristics include self-confidence, leadership and isn't about clubbing people over the head.
EXACTLY!

There are men who give true alpha males a bad name. If it doesn't come naturally to them they force it and then they aren't alpha males, they are a-holes.
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Old 02-09-2012, 07:57 AM
 
Location: Rhode Island
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Sorry. Still not buying it.
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Old 02-09-2012, 09:10 AM
 
Location: NC
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Sorry. Still not buying it.
You probably won't be able to.


If you have never been a leader, it is hard to know what it is like. It just comes natural.
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Old 02-09-2012, 09:23 AM
 
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alpha male means he is socially dominant, people react to him. They are rarely decent guys, usually exempt of the code of conduct which they hold everyone else to, and have dark triad traits. Doesn't really matter what his socioeconomic status is either, its pretty much all behavioral but is most commonly it's a high T guy. Rich, famous ,charming, charismatic, extroverted guys like Brad Pitt and Tom Brady have way more women throw themselves at them than an average guy.... the same can be said for serial killers, like Richard Ramirez.
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Old 02-09-2012, 09:42 AM
 
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An Alpha male is NOT a follower. He does NOT need the approval of other men for anything. He could care less what other people think he should do.

Like you have these high school type cliques and gangs, where each person follows along with the others in the group. They are not Alpha males!

An Alpha male may decide to NOT get in a fight and walk away (the smart thing to do!). Others might call him weak or a pus**. He does not care.

He does not ask his friends what type of car he should get. Does not get a new car because the neighbors have one. Rather he gets a new or used car which he wants and he gets that when he needs it. (Does not get "what everybody else has", unless that is what he wants.)

And some guy clique/gangs may think it is weak or disapprove of a man holding hands with his girlfriend around the guys or hugging her or kissing her. The Alpha male (if he wants to) could care less what the other guys think. He will hold hands and show affection as he so desires. Or not do so as he so desires.

That's the general idea...
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