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Old 05-09-2012, 06:44 AM
 
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No one else can ruin your day/mood/life unless you let them.

People are entitled to be as grumpy as they want, particularly the elderley IMO.

Personally I'm quite fond of a grouch. It cuts all the false niceness that so many people display.
Why? Just because you're older you get a pass to be a complete douche? I never understood this logic.

Do I get a free pass to be a douche cause I'm disabled? (I don't think I do, but I wonder if you would let me get away with being a douche if I were a douche around you.)
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Old 05-09-2012, 06:46 AM
 
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Most people have had plenty of horrible things happen in their lives but they don't feel the need to act like they are the only ones in the world who it has happened to. Most bitter people can't fathom that anything bad has happened to anyone besides them, and they wouldn't listen to a person even if they tried talking because they'd be too busy spouting off about how their life is still more difficult.

A person who is happy go lucky might have had a tougher life than the person next to them, they just don't want to push off that toxic attitude to the next person.
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Old 05-09-2012, 06:47 AM
 
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Easy to say if nothing (or hardly anything) happened to you. I find it to be a very judgmental, self-centered, and annoying phrase many happy-go-luckies like to parrot!
I agree with the 10% what happens/90% your reaction and I have been through a lot.
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Old 05-09-2012, 06:49 AM
 
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I'm sure you know at the ripe old age of 20 something.
Age isn't everything. Some people have been through more than others, even if they are the same age.
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Old 05-09-2012, 02:33 PM
 
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Completely and utterly disagree. Again, the fundamental quality of bitter people is self-centeredness, the belief that their pain and suffering is completely unique, never endured by anybody else in the entirety of human history. Nobody could possibly understand what they're going through. Nobody could possibly do better under the same set of circumstances. It's hopeless. Woe is me. Nobody else has lost his job. Nobody else has been divorced. Nobody else has health issues.
I disagree. You make good points, but the approach is a little idealistic. The post you respond to makes good points, too. Seriously, if people knew what was going to happen on 9/11, they would have happily scheduled a dentist appointment that morning. There are a lot of "wild card" issues in life, and some get handed bad decks more frequently than others. Bitterness, and its extent, is a function of both cumulative life experiences (ratio of negative to positive ones) and resources available to cope. How the latter develop differently in different people is something in which I am no expert. I vent about stuff to friends. Friends vent about stuff to me. I think letting off some steam is necessary. I think it's partly cultural. That's why I make comments about demographics and whatnot, because there are places and cultures where this is not acceptable. That said, people shouldn't implode from bitterness. Conversely, there's a limit as to how much they can, and should, dump onto other people.
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Old 05-09-2012, 02:35 PM
 
Location: Everybody is going to hurt you, you just gotta find the ones worth suffering for-B Marley
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Don't assume just because someone may be bitter about one thing that they're a bitter person. You can be bitter about something without bitterness consuming you. Just because you become angry about something in particular does that make you an angry person? Use your minds peripheral vision here.
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Old 02-05-2014, 03:07 PM
 
Location: Texas
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The saying Misery Loves Company is about a type of person you describe.

That person cannot see the wisdom, example of bringing people up. They get a sick, dark, pleasure in taking people down to their level-it feels good to them. It is wretched, pitiful.

I see the Internet brings out that side in many. I see folks that have addictive traits sometimes have that quality.

I stay away from those people very successfully.
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Old 02-05-2014, 03:08 PM
 
Location: Texas
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Default idealistic.? get a dictionary

[quote=robertpolyglot;24230586]I disagree. You make good points, but the approach is a little idealistic.

Maybe you meant to say narrow or some other word?
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Old 02-05-2014, 03:12 PM
 
Location: Texas
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The OP is speaking about bitter people. Funny how folks chiming in want to change the convo to some variation thereof, maybe not good listeners? You can start your own thread about sometimes bitter people.
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Old 02-05-2014, 03:49 PM
 
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The really bitter, passive-aggressive people I have known are miserable people who feel they've been cheated in life in some way, BUT to protect their pride, instead of looking at THEIR part in their misery, they delude themselves into believing it's everyone else's fault and therefore everyone else deserves to be punished for it. Chronically bitter people are narcissistic, immature, and stuck.

They'd rather externalize the blame and remain the victim in their own eyes, than make the changes that they need to make in their own lives, because that involves facing their own feelings of powerlessness and their fear of failure, of not being good enough.

It's basically a giant defense mechanism.
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