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Old 06-19-2012, 12:29 AM
 
Location: The western periphery of Terra Australis
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I notice that displays of affection between males - both physical and verbal - seem to be viewed with suspicion in Northern European, North American and Australian society and culture. This includes frequently hugging one's male friends, kissing on the cheek when greeting, holding hands, any kind of unnecessary physical contact (stroking one's hair, for instance) while the same is tolerated among women. In terms of verbal affection, express platonic love, or sometimes even sharing feelings seems to make the modern Western man somewhat uncomfortable. In other cultures, say Middle Eastern, India or Southeast Asian, such behaviour is commonly observed, although may be declining due to globalization.

Do you think the world would be a better place if men were more open with each other? Might there be less aggression (probably not, going by the Mid-Eastern example)? Is it healthy for men to express these feelings towards their male friends and peers? Do you think these inhibitions sometimes stunt relationships between men? Perhaps, if they're more accepted, they won't be as associated with anything sexual.
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Old 06-19-2012, 01:40 AM
 
Location: Missouri, USA
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We all are raised with different customs. Oftentimes we continue these customs because they make us comfortable...and they make us comfortable because we were raised with such customs...so we continue these customs so they make us comfortable...and so on.

Mexican citizens and U.S. citizens have different distances between themselves and others, that they are comfortable having between themselves and others. Mexicans usually want to be much closer to people they are speaking to than U.S. citizens do. Therefore, during a conversation between two people, one of each of these nationalities, it may appear that the Mexican is chasing the citizen of the United States accross the room. The citizen of the U.S. will keep moving backwards, and the Mexican will keep moving forwards. It's kind of funny.

Why change the touching/physical/movement/spacing related traditions? That could very well just make everyone more uncomfortable.
For some reason male bonding is associated with homosexuality...which is somewhat bizarre and insane and probably a damaging concept for society. This association needs to be deleted immediately. It's a pop-culture-driven witch hunt, probably initiated by stupid people with no lives, or people who write magazines for stupid people with no lives. It doesn't make any sense...and it isn't even relevant 99.9999999% of the time.

...but some men are too competitive, or afraid of change, or afraid of losing face, or afraid of doctors, etc.
I know a fifty year old idiot with an art degree, a bachelor's degree, in painting, who doesn't paint. He's an idiot.

A lot of the time, women are becomming smarter than men. They are using more of their available resources...looks...networking...marying for money...brown nosing...planning ahead...and a willingness to ask for help. Some other posters talked about women being "daddied" by male employers and not deserving their pay. That doesn't sound so much like an un-earned benefit, so much as a skill that deserves a reward to me.

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Old 06-19-2012, 09:03 AM
 
Location: Missouri, USA
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Wow. Nobody got irritated at the above post.

Another thing that is highly honorable and more commonly encouraged for men than women to maintain is chivalrousness and an unemotional acceptance of things that may be unpleasant. Ideally this sticks around for eternity.

If anything negative would've been said about women...they would've probably ganged up and attacked me.
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Old 06-19-2012, 09:12 AM
 
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I'll leave this one up to cultural norms. As they say "When in Rome...."
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Old 06-19-2012, 09:26 AM
 
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The holding of hands and stroking of hair would definately confuse me...and I might assume something that's not....
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Old 06-19-2012, 09:27 AM
 
Location: The western periphery of Terra Australis
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The holding of hands and stroking of hair would definately confuse me...and I might assume something that's not....
Well these are behaviours I've observed between straight female friends in many cultures, and between straight male friends in some cultures.

And how about if you were to sit on your male friend's lap? Or share a double bed with him?
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Old 06-19-2012, 09:40 AM
 
Location: Round Rock, Texas
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Jerry Sandusky would approve this thread.
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Old 06-19-2012, 10:05 AM
 
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Maybe in your view, men should have deep emotion and mostly hide their moods and sadness. But the world becomes more and more open, men can also express their emotions between each other to reduce their life pressure.
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Old 06-19-2012, 11:56 PM
 
Location: Southern California
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I don't mind hugging male friends. That's no big deal. But stroking their hair? I'll pass on that. And what if they're bald or have shaved heads?

[i ain't rubbing their heads! ]
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Old 06-20-2012, 12:06 AM
 
Location: War World!
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When it comes down to it I say "Whatever floats your boat". How you show your affection with someone is between you and that person ultimately. Speaking from me personally, being Hispanic and North African, I tend to be pretty physically affectionate but not overtly. I hug my male friends and relatives and with some members of my family we clutch hands and kiss each others fist when we greet each other.

Other than that, I personally don't stroke no guys hair, sit on his lap, rub their heads give them an ass massage. hahahhaa. I have my limits being physically affectionate.
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