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Old 08-15-2012, 11:44 AM
 
Location: Fort Worth, TX
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I do it on a subconscious level, I don't really think about it, but I was raised to address women I don't know as either "miss" or "ma'am." If I almost bump into a lady when I'm walking I'll say "Oh, pardon me ma'am." If I'm finishing a phone call with a woman I'll usually end it with "Thank you ma'am, have a good day." I've never gotten a bad reaction from it (I don't think so at least) but I've read a few anecdotes from men about getting bad looks or even being told not to address someone as "ma'am."

So what's the BFD? Why do some take offense to being shown respect?
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Old 08-15-2012, 11:46 AM
 
Location: Up above the world so high!
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I do it on a subconscious level, I don't really think about it, but I was raised to address women I don't know as either "miss" or "ma'am." If I almost bump into a lady when I'm walking I'll say "Oh, pardon me ma'am." If I'm finishing a phone call with a woman I'll usually end it with "Thank you ma'am, have a good day." I've never gotten a bad reaction from it (I don't think so at least) but I've read a few anecdotes from men about getting bad looks or even being told not to address someone as "ma'am."

So what's the BFD? Why do some take offense to being shown respect?
Must be a regional thing - and you are in yankee territory
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Old 08-15-2012, 11:47 AM
 
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It's an age thing, in my opinion. I once called a younger woman in France "Madame" ("Mademoiselle would have been correct) and she let me know in no uncertain terms this was NOT right. I was dutifully ashamed).

Men are generally called "sir" from the time they are teenagers in service-type situations, so perhaps you don't understand the sensitivities involved? There should be an all-purpose, ageless term but there isn't. I've been in the service industry for a while and try to avoid using "Ma'am" or "Miss" when possible. It requires more attention but it's possible.
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Old 08-15-2012, 11:49 AM
 
Location: Katonah, NY
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It makes us feel OLD! That being said - I've never been offended by it and would never make a big deal out of it - but it does make you feel old...
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Old 08-15-2012, 11:54 AM
 
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I don't mind it; my military friends say that to me all the time.
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Old 08-15-2012, 11:55 AM
 
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It's an age thing, in my opinion. I once called a younger woman in France "Madame" ("Mademoiselle would have been correct) and she let me know in no uncertain terms this was NOT right. I was dutifully ashamed).

Men are generally called "sir" from the time they are teenagers in service-type situations, so perhaps you don't understand the sensitivities involved? There should be an all-purpose, ageless term but there isn't. I've been in the service industry for a while and try to avoid using "Ma'am" or "Miss" when possible. It requires more attention but it's possible.

I think thats it. When I was young I didnt really like being called Ma'am by young people. Now I call everyone Ma'am or Sir and dont think anything of it and it dosent bother me to be called Ma'am. I have also known men that didnt like being called Sir or Mr. They would say Sir or Mr.______ is my father.
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Old 08-15-2012, 11:56 AM
 
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When my husband says "yes ma'am" it usually means get off my case. I get a little irked by it. I don't mind if any stranger calls me ma'am or miss.
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Old 08-15-2012, 11:58 AM
 
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To some women, especially single women, when men start calling them ma'am, it signals that they're not longer viewed as young, but that they've transitioned into some nebulous category that sounds slightly dowdy and old.
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Old 08-15-2012, 11:59 AM
 
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It makes us feel OLD! That being said - I've never been offended by it and would never make a big deal out of it - but it does make you feel old...
Just makes me feel respected
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Old 08-15-2012, 12:03 PM
 
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To some women, especially single women, when men start calling them ma'am, it signals that they're not longer viewed as young, but that they've transitioned into some nebulous category that sounds slightly dowdy and old.
in a nutshell^^^

married or not, you only get called ma'am if you are older. not many woman likes to be reminded that they are seen as older.
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