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A better question would be when did this become about electronics and clothing? The thread is about whether or not to pay for items that were accidentally and innocently broken. It's pretty hard for me to envision how one accidentally breaks electronics or damages clothing. It's easy to answer this question when it's an issue of negligence. The difference of opinion seems to be centered around accidental breakage.
The issue is honesty and responsibility - doesn't matter what the item is.
More of an ethical question, I suppose, but related to relationships...
Today I was at a store buying a can of juice, and I dropped it on accident and it made a small slash/hole in the side. Probably a quarter of the drink spilled out. For a split second, I contemplated just putting the can back and quietly leaving, but then the little angel on my shoulder got the better of me and I informed the store-owner. I told her straight off I'd pay for it. Honestly paid off, in a way, because she charged me less for it. If I had accidentally damaged say something much more expensive, however, I do wonder if I'd be so honest. Especially if I couldn't afford it.
Would you at least own up? If you went to say a store selling expensive things or antiques and they had a 'if damaged considered sold' policy would you own up, if your act went unnoticed, or would you quietly pretend as if nothing happened? Would it depend on the cost or would that make no difference? Be honest now, this poll will be anonymous .
In a place like a supermarket I never have nor have I ever been asked to. But if you walked into say Ethan Allen furniture and forgot to take a pencil out of your back pocket and punctured a hole in a 2g leather sofa I would think they might ask u to pay. However truth is most retail stores have insurance for situations like that.
I would inform the store and pay for it because it's the honest thing to do. I find it disturbing that such a large percentage would only do so conditionally or not at all. No wonder crime statistics are as high as they are. On the other hand I'm encouraged by the large percentage that has ethics and values.
In a place like a supermarket I never have nor have I ever been asked to. But if you walked into say Ethan Allen furniture and forgot to take a pencil out of your back pocket and punctured a hole in a 2g leather sofa I would think they might ask u to pay. However truth is most retail stores have insurance for situations like that.
Exactly. Because by leaving the pencil in your pocket you behaved in a negligent manner.
I find it disturbing that such a large percentage would only do so conditionally or not at all. No wonder crime statistics are as high as they are.
And no wonder zero tolerance rules are so popular. Clearly some people seem to be unable to discern between accidents and intentional acts. Zero tolerance helps those who are unable to see anything except black and white. Everyone must pay no matter what the circumstances because circumstances don't matter. That's why we must also suspend the kid with the gun shaped pop tart. Looks like a gun, doesn't matter if it's really a toaster pastry. Must. Have. Clear. Rules. No thinking please.
When did this become about groceries? Think about clothing, someone tries something on and rips it, puts it back on the rack, or somebody is eating something that smears on the clothes. Or, you break something electronic, and put it back on the shelf for somebody else to buy.
All these things raise the price of goods for all of us, raise insurance prices, that gets passed to the consumer.
If you want this world to be more fair and truthful, be that person, and take responsibility for your own actions.
It was about groceries when the OP began the thread with dropping and breaking a container of juice. And then in post #3, OP said "I guess putting it back wouldn't have been that bad, would it?" I was clearly stating my low opinion of someone who would put it on the shelf broken and leaking, and not take responsibility for it.
Regarding your last sentence, there is no need to tell me to be that person, I am someone who takes responsibility for my actions.
And no wonder zero tolerance rules are so popular. Clearly some people seem to be unable to discern between accidents and intentional acts. Zero tolerance helps those who are unable to see anything except black and white. Everyone must pay no matter what the circumstances because circumstances don't matter. That's why we must also suspend the kid with the gun shaped pop tart. Looks like a gun, doesn't matter if it's really a toaster pastry. Must. Have. Clear. Rules. No thinking please.
When it comes to another's property or belongings, it doesn't matter if the act is intentional or accidental. The owner should be held harmless.
I can just hear it now in court, "Well, I didn't mean to cause that accident, total their car and put them in the hospital for weeks. Therefore I shouldn't be liable for damages."
But I guess that a little above some people's comprehension and value system.
And no wonder zero tolerance rules are so popular. Clearly some people seem to be unable to discern between accidents and intentional acts. Zero tolerance helps those who are unable to see anything except black and white. Everyone must pay no matter what the circumstances because circumstances don't matter. That's why we must also suspend the kid with the gun shaped pop tart. Looks like a gun, doesn't matter if it's really a toaster pastry. Must. Have. Clear. Rules. No thinking please.
It's not up to us to forgive and forget, it's up to the shop owner who's goods you devalued or destroyed, whether intentional or not.
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