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Old 04-22-2014, 02:39 PM
 
Location: southern california
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Geez Huck, that's a low blow...

Kind of like saying: CDF, where all the victims unite...

Since when is there an age limit to being polite?

Unfortunately I hear "I'm old, I don't need to sugarcoat things." Well, that's fine. Direct feedback works with me. But don't complain when people aren't really interested in hearing your opinion then.

Just because someone is cranky about where their life is, am I supposed to say "yeah sorry about that, that's a bad break, etc." while a lady friend and I are trying to enjoy a sandwich? Or join in on their "If it wasn't for %&#% (insert minority), there would be less problems where you work" conversations?

Early on I engaged in conversation with a number of these patrons. The ones that aren't whining all the time I still converse with. Being compassionate is one thing, being a dishrag is another. Thx NY A.
No not low but
true not your best post
old people do not have a monopoly on rude behavior
And I know Houston and I know bars I can say that from personal experience
But if I was looking for rude behavior a bar is a good place

As you can see from the posts not everybody belongs in that stereotype
Of old rude guys
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Old 04-22-2014, 02:54 PM
 
Location: Up North in God's Country
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I think if you put everyone over 65 on an island, this group of obnoxious loudmouth seniors would be shunned by the other seniors.

I don't think the OP has anything at all against a senior being in the bar.

He is actually wondering why everyone has to put up with obnoxious behavior simply because the person is ELDERLY.

Even other elderly folks don't want to sit and listen to whiners all day, lol. No one does.
So you've never been in a bar where the young people are being loud and obnoxious...whining about politics or their jobs? I think the OP just wants to ban older people from being in his hangout. That's my opinion, and I'm sticking to it.
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Old 04-22-2014, 03:10 PM
 
Location: New Port Richey, FL
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I take offense at the OP's post. I'm a senior citizen and I don't complain about food, drinks, or noise when I go out. I'm so happy to get away from the house that it's nice to have someone else cook for me, do the dishes, and to be around other people. I go out to have a good time and have to put up with younger folks on their cell phones, yapping away while their kids run around terrorizing other patrons of the restaurant; or they growl at someone on the phone while they're in the bathroom -- why on Earth does someone go in the bathroom in a bar, or anywhere else public for that matter, and make a phone call? If you do, and someone makes a bodily function noise really loud, it's probably me. Bathrooms are for going to the bathroom. They're not a phone booth!!

If you're not in the mood to deal with people of all shapes, sizes and temperaments, stay home. People in all kinds of moods go out. Just because you don't like their age or attitude doesn't mean they're going to change for you. It's a public place, and public means people. Get over it, or get up and go somewhere else. I've never ever been in a facility where I liked everything everyone else was doing. Either it's the lady in the next booth chewing like a cow, or the drunk down the bar burping loud enough to be heard in Pittsburgh, or the guy two seats over who marinated in cheap stinky cologne thinking it would attract a pretty young thing he could bed for the night....we are who we are, and they are who they are, and you can't do anything about it.

In other words, like Mom said....

and Thumper....

"If you can't say something nice, don't say anything at all."
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Old 04-22-2014, 03:40 PM
 
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Thumbs down Seniors in Bars

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So you've never been in a bar where the young people are being loud and obnoxious...whining about politics or their jobs? I think the OP just wants to ban older people from being in his hangout. That's my opinion, and I'm sticking to it.
Right on! Is there anything more obnoxious than a bunch of 21-22 year old guys in a bar - drunk, loud, obnoxious, showing off because they are so proud that they are allowed to legally drink at last? Everybody else in the place has to listen to that - or usually leave because they can't stand the atmosphere.

The OP did not say what kind of senior places were in the neighborhood, but if you have a bar in close proximity to senior places, I guess you have to expect seniors. It's too bad that the conversation has to turn to their aches and pains - instead of the silly things that 21 year old guys like to discuss when they are drunk.

Just look at the disrespectful title that the OP gave to this thread: Old People are a pain or crazy.
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Old 04-22-2014, 04:26 PM
 
Location: Planet Earth
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Full Definition of AGEISM

age·ism noun \ˈā-(ˌ)ji-zəm\
: unfair treatment of old people
: prejudice or discrimination against a particular age-group and especially the elderly


Hope you make it to a ripe old age...Karma is well Karma.
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Old 04-22-2014, 05:21 PM
 
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I take offense at the OP's post. I'm a senior citizen and I don't complain about food, drinks, or noise when I go out. I'm so happy to get away from the house that it's nice to have someone else cook for me, do the dishes, and to be around other people. I go out to have a good time and have to put up with younger folks on their cell phones, yapping away while their kids run around terrorizing other patrons of the restaurant; or they growl at someone on the phone while they're in the bathroom -- why on Earth does someone go in the bathroom in a bar, or anywhere else public for that matter, and make a phone call? If you do, and someone makes a bodily function noise really loud, it's probably me. Bathrooms are for going to the bathroom. They're not a phone booth!!

If you're not in the mood to deal with people of all shapes, sizes and temperaments, stay home. People in all kinds of moods go out. Just because you don't like their age or attitude doesn't mean they're going to change for you. It's a public place, and public means people. Get over it, or get up and go somewhere else. I've never ever been in a facility where I liked everything everyone else was doing. Either it's the lady in the next booth chewing like a cow, or the drunk down the bar burping loud enough to be heard in Pittsburgh, or the guy two seats over who marinated in cheap stinky cologne thinking it would attract a pretty young thing he could bed for the night....we are who we are, and they are who they are, and you can't do anything about it.

In other words, like Mom said....

and Thumper....

"If you can't say something nice, don't say anything at all."
Bravo!!
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Old 04-22-2014, 07:05 PM
 
Location: Penna
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Lonely, ole pain in the a's, say what they mean and mean what they say, "if they can".

Not fun to be around, but if you ever have the time engage them in conversation about where they have been, you just may learn something.
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Old 04-22-2014, 08:28 PM
 
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How is a drunk, belligerent senior different from a drunk, belligerent 20-something?
I wondered this myself until I figured it out: They're not as difficult to control.

A drunk is a drunk is a drunk. Why you hanging out there? Maybe they cringe when they see YOU walk in, too. j/k
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Old 04-22-2014, 09:01 PM
 
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I take offense at the OP's post. I'm a senior citizen and I don't complain about food, drinks, or noise when I go out. I'm so happy to get away from the house that it's nice to have someone else cook for me, do the dishes, and to be around other people. I go out to have a good time and have to put up with younger folks on their cell phones, yapping away while their kids run around terrorizing other patrons of the restaurant; or they growl at someone on the phone while they're in the bathroom -- why on Earth does someone go in the bathroom in a bar, or anywhere else public for that matter, and make a phone call? If you do, and someone makes a bodily function noise really loud, it's probably me. Bathrooms are for going to the bathroom. They're not a phone booth!!

If you're not in the mood to deal with people of all shapes, sizes and temperaments, stay home. People in all kinds of moods go out. Just because you don't like their age or attitude doesn't mean they're going to change for you. It's a public place, and public means people. Get over it, or get up and go somewhere else. I've never ever been in a facility where I liked everything everyone else was doing. Either it's the lady in the next booth chewing like a cow, or the drunk down the bar burping loud enough to be heard in Pittsburgh, or the guy two seats over who marinated in cheap stinky cologne thinking it would attract a pretty young thing he could bed for the night....we are who we are, and they are who they are, and you can't do anything about it.

In other words, like Mom said....

and Thumper....

"If you can't say something nice, don't say anything at all."

Exactly, stay home or find another establishment. Bar crowds change.

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Right on! Is there anything more obnoxious than a bunch of 21-22 year old guys in a bar - drunk, loud, obnoxious, showing off because they are so proud that they are allowed to legally drink at last? Everybody else in the place has to listen to that - or usually leave because they can't stand the atmosphere.

The OP did not say what kind of senior places were in the neighborhood, but if you have a bar in close proximity to senior places, I guess you have to expect seniors. It's too bad that the conversation has to turn to their aches and pains - instead of the silly things that 21 year old guys like to discuss when they are drunk.

Just look at the disrespectful title that the OP gave to this thread: Old People are a pain or crazy.
No, there isn't anything more loud and obnoxious than 21-22 year old guys in a bar. Went into a place prior to seeing a show to get something to eat and it was like a frat house, was supposed to be an Irish Pub, it was a frat house...LOL.

Guess what? We dealt with it as it was right across the street, but wouldn't go back again. But I didn't expect them to all quiet down for my sake.

I wonder if the OP ever tried to steer the conversation away from aches and pains to "tell me about your background, where are you from, what kind of work did you do, were in the military"? I find most old people interesting.

If you can't get them to do that, well than go sit somewhere else or find another place to hang out.
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Old 04-22-2014, 10:36 PM
 
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That depends on what experiences predominate in your life; different people have different kinds of experiences. Just because you are bitter doesn't mean that is or should be the norm for perceptive people, for those who have been "paying attention". You can "pay attention" selectively and remember all the mean, dishonest people and events or you can take some comfort in the kind and compassionate people so that things even out.

When you hold onto bitterness you are poisoning yourself - the people who harmed you are not harmed by your bitterness.
That's a wonderfully new-agey mush answer. You should get that included in one of those "Chicken Soup for the Soul" books you really should....
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