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Old 09-06-2014, 09:18 AM
 
Location: USA
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Sometimes I think life would be a lot easier if I were clueless or drunk . . .

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I've often thought there is a lot of truth to a line from a Thomas Gray poem: Where ignorance is bliss, 'tis folly to be wise.
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Old 09-06-2014, 10:16 AM
 
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In my younger days, I've alienated several peers because of the way I talked. I'm a minority, and grew up in the "big city"; I didn't use a lot of street terminology ("Sup"; "Yo, bro"; etc) My peers used to say that I "talk proper", or I "talk like white", I guess it was just my upbringing and educational background. Even when I was in college, ppl told me that I "sounded white". Color has nothing to do with decency. Never did, never will!
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Old 09-06-2014, 10:32 AM
 
Location: Denver 'burbs
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Well...I could see a person running into one or two people who were bitter enough in their own lives to not be friendly to someone who was extremely attractive or intelligent or wealthy or whatever other characteristic that person might be jealous of...but....the premise the OP laid out was this:

Anyone here suspect they are friendless because they are attractive, smart, etc?

If a person has not one friend (ie "friendless"), then it is probably not because everyone else is just jealous.
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Old 09-06-2014, 10:35 AM
 
Location: Pittsburgh
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There's a certain kind of woman who's convinced that other women don't like her because they're jealous of how pretty she is or how much male attention she gets. That's generally not why people don't like her.
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Old 09-06-2014, 10:36 AM
 
Location: southwestern PA
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Anyone here suspect they are friendless because they are attractive, smart, etc?

If a person has not one friend (ie "friendless"), then it is probably not because everyone else is just jealous.
Yep!
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Old 09-06-2014, 11:57 AM
 
Location: Eureka CA
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Give me a break.
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Old 09-06-2014, 12:21 PM
 
Location: The Island of Misfit Toys
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No. Study after study shows the situations you describe above would be very unlikely.

"Handsome men earn, on average, 5 percent more than their less-attractive counterparts (good-looking women earn 4 percent more); pretty people get more attention from teachers, bosses, and mentors; even babies stare longer at good-looking faces (and we stare longer at good-looking babies)."
http://www.newsweek.com/beauty-advan...our-life-74313

There are personal, financial, and even health benefits to being good looking.
Studies Show The Advantages Of Being Beautiful - Business Insider

A PhD in psychology, who is a professor of comparative human development, evolutionary biology, and neurobiology at the University of Chicago, writes, "I fly frequently and at some point I began to notice that the passengers who sit in First/Business class seem better-looking than those sitting in Economy. This applies to individuals of both genders and of any age, including children and people in their 70s."
The truth about why beautiful people are more successful | Psychology Today

Dateline NBC ran a hidden-camera episode that asked the question "Do Looks Really Matter?" The results speak for themselves.
Do looks really matter? - Dateline NBC | NBC News
And it is those types of studies that feed directly into the negative presumptions people have about attractive people. It makes it easier for people already predisposed to compete with others and judge them negatively to conclude an attractive person didn't get that job because they deserved it.
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Old 09-06-2014, 12:23 PM
 
Location: The Island of Misfit Toys
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Excellent post!

OP, people don't dislike you because your attractive and smart, or at least think you are. When group after group of people dislike you, it's you.
Btw, I wasn't talking about myself.
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Old 09-06-2014, 12:32 PM
 
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Every group of people has a subset who doesn't have good social skills. Smart people, dump people, good looking and bad looking.

As to the OPs original question, no. While you may not think of yourself as intelligent or attractive, you obviously don't come across to others as personable, approachable, friendly, and genuine. Those are the real qualities that draw friends, regardless of people's intelligence or beauty.
Yeah but there's a reason that the age-old story of social exclusion is the nerd being shoved into a locker on a daily basis and beaten up for their lunch money or homework. Unless that's just another one of society's biases against "smart" people, in which case still proves my point.
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Old 09-06-2014, 12:37 PM
 
Location: The Island of Misfit Toys
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Give me a break.
I sense you have an alternate take apparently I'm not smart enough to hear?

That's okay. Usually when all people have to offer is a negative assessment they know they can't back it up with a substantive argument.

What kind of break do you need? A break from reading other people's threads and being an ass? Yea, we can all use a break from that.
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