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Old 05-17-2015, 04:59 PM
 
Location: The Jar
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Maybe it is because some people might say it is a sign of aging or being older than the person who says maam or sir ..Im just saying I have heard it that way . I don't care one way or the other but I have heard it that way .
Yeah, agreed. I think it's because it often screams this: "Hey (aged) old lady/man!"
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Old 05-17-2015, 05:01 PM
 
Location: In The South
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In a slightly different slant on this subject, I'm a Yankee transplant to the deep south, I live in South Louisiana for around 13 years now. I am a cashier in a pharmacy, and it's a little difficult for me, as an older woman, to know how to address some people who are my age or a little younger.

It seems that here, you address your elders as Mr. Joe, or Miss/Mrs. Anna. But How do you address them if you are older than them?? I feel it's a little demeaning to call someone younger than me Mr. Joe. But then, as a transplanted Yankee I sometimes have a little difficulty with the pronunciation of the last name, so I usually default to "Sir". Or "Ma'am".

I, personally, am never insulted when someone calls me Ma'am. However, and again maybe it's regional, but some people have a tendency to call older women "Young Lady", and it does plss me off when they call me that. I feel that that is insulting. My daughter and I had a waitress in a restaurant one time recently who continuously called us "Young Ladies". Sets my teeth on edge.
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Old 05-17-2015, 05:03 PM
 
Location: Denver CO
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I don't like it because it makes me feel old.

And it also feels out of step culturally - in most workplaces everyone uses first names, from the CEO down to the janitor. My son's teachers call me by my first name, as I do them (although I do refer to them as Mr. X and Ms. Y to my son, since that is what he calls them). I think that society has changed and Sir and Ma'am feel very artificial. Obviously, there is some regional variation, but it the point of manners is to make other people feel comfortable, then it doesn't make sense to insist on calling them by terminology that they don't like, just because some people do.
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Old 05-17-2015, 05:11 PM
 
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i flip them the bird and say "I'm no sir."
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Old 05-17-2015, 05:19 PM
 
Location: Arizona
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If a child is being raised to say sir or ma'am, you shouldn't tell them to call you something different.

Women have to quit being so hung up on age.
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Old 05-17-2015, 05:21 PM
 
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I am on the east coast mid atlantic region and it does not bother me at all.
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Old 05-17-2015, 06:04 PM
 
Location: Eastwatch by the sea
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I agree with some of the responses. We didn't have to use the terms in the house that I grew up in. I don't recall calling any adult sir/ ma'am. If I knew the last name of an individual, I'd call that person Mr, Mrs, or Miss.

I grew up in Illinois, Chicagoland. I didn't start using the term heavily until I went into the Army. Then, it was drilled into me. I've lived in two Southern states since my discharge: Tn and Ga. I've also lived in Peoria, IL since being discharged from the Army. Yes, my incessant use of the words sir/ ma'am was very off-putting to a lot of Peorians.

From my experience, it's regional. I much prefer to be called sir than dog, chief, etc.
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Old 05-17-2015, 06:21 PM
 
Location: southwestern PA
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If a child is being raised to say sir or ma'am, you shouldn't tell them to call you something different.
Sure you should!

If you prefer Mrs Thinkalot, that is what they should call you.
If you prefer Mama T, that is what they should call you.
Sir and ma'am is a default if you do not know a name....
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Old 05-17-2015, 06:36 PM
 
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I think we can address the elderly or anyone respectfully with out the labels. Like saying how you today with out the Ma'am at the end or sir or whatever. I remember the first time I was called ma'am at 22 and was a bit insulted. Never cared for it since then.

I always found 'lady' to be a bit derogatory, defining all woman as delicate and weak and submissive, non of which applied to me. But that was my interpretation. We don't always have to pass down what was drilled into us as kids. At some point we are adults ourselves and can do differently than our parents and still be respectful of others with out the labels

I'm 65 now and don't really even hear it any more, if they even notice me. I could go to the supermarket in my nightgown and no one would remember me being there. Some days I find that rather liberating.

But when I was younger I fretted over things like that. My parents also made me address elders in a certain way. When you are young you tend to just do as you are told even if it makes little sense.

Plus times change and things we used to do just don't apply in all situations.
Gotta say it. If you really and truly get insulted when someone tries to be polite and calls you ma'am, you might be just a little too fractious for your own good. There is no labeling going on. There is no assignment of age. There is no imposition of social construct. It is simply a polite way to address someone, far better than saying "Hey, you."
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Old 05-17-2015, 07:10 PM
 
Location: At the corner of happy and free
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Gotta say it. If you really and truly get insulted when someone tries to be polite and calls you ma'am, you might be just a little too fractious for your own good. There is no labeling going on. There is no assignment of age. There is no imposition of social construct. It is simply a polite way to address someone, far better than saying "Hey, you."
The bolded part is true in YOUR experience, but there are definitely geographical differences, as others have pointed out. Where I grew up, "ma'am" was used only for elderly women.

Here's a specific example. My sister-in-law (in her 50's) recently posted on facebook:
"Someone called me ma'am today. Must be time to get my roots touched up!"
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