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Old 05-23-2015, 06:53 AM
 
Location: Ft. Myers
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I stayed in a hotel recently and the rest room in the lobby had an automatic door that opened without you touching the knob or the door. I thought it was a great idea. You simply waved your hand in front of a sensor and the door opened up for you to exit.

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Old 05-23-2015, 07:11 AM
 
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lol. Your "sign" idea is done in many places, and doesn't change results. People are told smoking and drinking are bad. People still do it.
Maybe the signs need an update. Maybe they aren't effective because they aren't doing a good job of conveying the message. Maybe they aren't placed in the best location. If someone is already not washing their hands then placing the sign above the sink is probably not going to help because they aren't going to see it. Place it in the stall or on the wall behind the urinal so that they have to look at while they do their business. Change the language on the sign and make it have more of an impact. Most signs I've seen say "employees must wash hands after using the restroom". That's obviously not going to be effective but a different message might be which includes info about the germs that lurk all over a restroom. I don't see how confronting a stranger would be helpful. It's just going to make them angry. My point is that you are much more likely to change people's behavior for the positive by educating them rather then shaming them.

You can't compare smoking and drinking to not washing one's hands after using the restroom. Many people start smoking socially and because they like how it makes them feel many continue smoking because it's addictive. People drink socially for the same type of reasons. People don't wash their hands because they don't think it's important. Most people don't actually pee on their hands or get poop on their hands while wiping with toilet paper in the restroom. It's the germs that they can't see that are the problem. People need a reminder about those germs that they cannot see and don't think that they are touching. A "gross out" sign to remind them of what's lurking would do wonders.
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Old 05-23-2015, 07:29 AM
 
Location: USA
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So I was in the restroom a little while ago and it was nearly full. I heard one guy who was washing his hands berate another guy who was walking out about not washing his hands saying it spreads germs on the door handle. Of course it's true, but I thought it was incredibly rude!

Do you agree with this or just find it rude and out of place?
Um, no - not washing your hands can get other people sick. It's also stupid, lazy, crude, and rude.

There's one nut-bag at work who pulls this crap. Years ago, when we worked in the same area, the handful of times I saw him in the restroom, he'd NEVER wash his hands. Disgusting and stupid - and then he no doubt goes around shaking hands (since he's a big-wig manager), thus spreading filth.
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Old 05-23-2015, 07:32 AM
 
Location: USA
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The person I was responding to had addressed it as being a moral wrong.

But I'll point out again: The person who puts his " pis*y or poppy hands" [sic] on the faucet handles hasn't done anyone any favors, unless he sanitizes those handles afterward.

Not that most people do the 3-to-five minutes of scrubbing and rinsing that it takes to do more than a symbolic washing anyway.
The vast majority of places these days in the 1st world have automatic faucets to prevent exactly that - the touching of the faucet handle while hands are still filthy.

I also find the concept of "if you don't do something perfectly, why do it?" rather disturbing.

Washing your hands is not a binary condition - the hands don't stay completely filthy until they hit the 3 minute mark, when they becoming magically clean.

Quite frankly, what you propose - why bother? - is disgusting.
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Old 05-23-2015, 07:45 AM
 
Location: Jamestown, NY
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i agree with Pitt...

not washing your hands is NASTY!

If someone calls you (not you OP, but "you" in the general sense) b/c of something completely inappropriate and nasty that you're doing, then good for them. It's not rude: it's the truth...

The problem with our society and culture is that people don't want to be corrected for any of the stupidity they engage in or the nasty nonsense that they do. Kudos to that guy for calling out inappropriate behavior.
I agree.

I work at a college, and I'm continually shocked at the number of college age young women who don't wash their hands. How can people get to be college age and not learn to wash their hands after using the bathroom????
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Old 05-23-2015, 07:46 AM
 
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Does anyone touch the door handle after the leave a public restroom?

I open the door with a paper towel. I've noticed some restroom are now including a ledge for using your boot to open the door.

I’m also not one of those germ avoidance people who use hand sanitizers and excessively washes their hands. This probably explains why I’m rarely sick.
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Old 05-23-2015, 07:52 AM
 
Location: Kentucky Bluegrass
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I agree.

I work at a college, and I'm continually shocked at the number of college age young women who don't wash their hands. How can people get to be college age and not learn to wash their hands after using the bathroom????
all the people I work with have college degrees and they are sloppy in the bathrooms....
what we do now, is, if they walk out without washing their hands, and one of us is in there, we will go...
OMG, she didn't wash her hands...real loud so she hears.....I cannot believe parents left their kids go like that? There is a huge responsibility to parenting, and it starts from the time they are born....
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Old 05-23-2015, 07:56 AM
 
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Does anyone touch the door handle after the leave a public restroom?

I open the door with a paper towel. I've noticed some restroom are now including a ledge for using your boot to open the door.
I use a paper towel to open the door when leaving the bathroom. I have been noticing a lot of places not even having a door at all to the bathroom like you would normally find at a movie theater. Like this?

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Old 05-23-2015, 10:24 AM
 
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The vast majority of places these days in the 1st world have automatic faucets to prevent exactly that - the touching of the faucet handle while hands are still filthy.
What I do is what I described earlier. I don't touch anything in a public restroom with my hands unless I can touch it uniquely--disposable towels that I need touch nothing with my hands to dispense.

And, no, using a towel to manipulate the handles is not sufficient. If the handle, the towel, or the hand is moist, there is no barrier.

In fact, I avoid touching public items as much as possible, and I've trained myself to dedicate my right hand to touching whatever I can't avoid and my left to touching my face whenever necessary.

And I do sanitize my hands frequently through the day.

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I also find the concept of "if you don't do something perfectly, why do it?" rather disturbing.
When it comes to genuine antisepsis, the proper idea is, "if it's not done perfectly, it's not done at all." To go to one end of the spectrum, a surgeon who has not scrubbed completely should not consider himself scrubbed at all.

A person who has washed perfunctorily in a public restroom should not consider himself washed at all, and should behave afterward as if that is the case.
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Old 05-23-2015, 03:08 PM
 
Location: Elsewhere
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I was in a restroom at a casino this morning. The old woman walking ahead of me peered into three or four stalls with a sneer of disdain upon her face until she found one acceptable for her use. When I came out of the stall a minute or so later, Mrs. Picky came out at the same time--and walked out the door without washing her hands.
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