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Apparently you like the process of arguing just for the sake of arguing. Even though you have chosen not to live in an area or that's what you say, in an area where people have outdoor lighting and there are street lamps, please note neighbor DID choose to live in such an area. She didn't live in a no light zone neighborhood and then was ambushed by light using neighbors shining flood lamps into her bedroom. You have chosen to ignore what has been stated here to promote some kind of agenda or just to be acrimonious. You also ignored the part that already said we are going to ask her if she feels a motion sensor would be agreeable and if she claims she will be we will do that and then if as I predict she still complains even after the motion sensor light will tell her to leave us the hell. alone.
Years ago we lived 5 minutes from downtown Austin, on a street that ended in the Barton Creek Greenbelt. Lovely and dark at night. An across the street neighbor asked the city to put up streetlights. Because of the lay of the land, the street light she wanted would have shone directly into our windows and the neighbor's window. Fortunately, all neighbors within a certain distance would have to agree in order for the street light to be installed, and none of the neighbors except her wanted the street light. She had a yard light that was not working, and the neighbors offered to fix it for her at their expense, but she was not convinced - nothing but a big bright street light would keep the criminals at bay. You would think that outdoor lighting would be common five minutes from the center of a major city, but it was definitely not.
Some people are just afraid of the dark, wherever they live (we used to be able to see the Milky Way every night until people started moving out to the country who were, from all the evidence, terrified of the dark - no longer).
i moved out into the county to get away from city lights, I wanted to see the stars. next door put a street light up for security. we are in the county, there is no crime. I have never said anything to him and never will because he a very nice guy, but i lost my view of the stars
You open up a can of worms with your logic. What's considered "annoying" to you might not be to me and vice versa. What about your dog you have for your protection that barks while I'm trying to sleep after my 3rd shift job? What if I have crab grass growing that has its pollen blowing into your yard that you spend a fortune to keep weed-free? Etc., etc., etc. You and I have no rights to make such demands about each others property. BUT..... the two neighbors can come together calmly and come to to a solution, like the barrier trees. But, no, other than certain extreme circumstances, I can't come to your home and make such demands about YOUR property. Having a security light at your own home isn't extreme. As I said in my first post, my wife and I had the exact same problem. Rather than get up in arms about the guy's light, we just put up trees. It worked, they look great, and it gave us some wonderful extra privacy. No arguing. No going to the police. No shooting the guy's light out with a BB gun.
As I said in my first post, my wife and I had the exact same problem. Rather than get up in arms about the guy's light, we just put up trees.
How do you just "put up" trees? They have to be tall enough to shield the light and that usually means they need time to grow. Very few people can afford thick, wide, tall trees of mature height and instead normally buy them in approximately five gallon buckets and then the trees have to grow.
How did you manage to get instantaneous shade from the trees, tall and full enough to shield the light?
What about your dog you have for your protection that barks while I'm trying to sleep after my 3rd shift job? What if I have crab grass growing that has its pollen blowing into your yard that you spend a fortune to keep weed-free? Etc., etc., etc. You and I have no rights to make such demands about each others property. BUT..... the two neighbors can come together calmly and come to to a solution, like the barrier trees.
Of course it's best for neighbors to cooperate, but if you come to me and say my dog's constant barking is disturbing you would you prefer I tell you I'll take him to a trainer, or would you rather I tell you to suck it up and buy some ear plugs, or tell you to move? (as many in this thread are suggesting) If you install a light you should offer to pay for a motion detector, shield, etc, not tell your neighbor to go buy curtains.
The crab grass, well if you deliberately plant it then I feel you should find a way to keep it to your yard or offer to pay to keep it out of mine since you caused a problem by introducing a nuisance plant where there wasn't one before. A little story here... I moved to a house that had a beautiful vine grow up over the summer, one I had never seen before and I loved the way it looked and the hummingbirds it brought. One summer one of my neighbors let me know that it had spread into their flower bed and they weren't happy about it because there were little vines everywhere. I went out and killed that vine and for the next ten years I went out every spring pulled out every little wayward seedling from that vine that I could find, to make sure it didn't come back again. What I didn't do was parade around my 'right' to grow anything that wasn't illegal and tell my neighbors to just deal with it because 'I' didn't think it was a nuisance.
A leland cypress which really is not a cypress but a fir, will grow 20 feet in four year
Four years is a long time to wait if you're being bugged like hell every night. This is nowhere near a quick fix.
So no one is addressing this, but what is the downside to a motion detector type of light? Why wouldn't this be a good remedy while you're waiting for your tree to grow?
People who don't have them, or don't know any better, have already insisted that they "flash off and on all night" like every time a bug flies by. Something which isn't the case, or at least not if one knows what they're doing, they can be adjusted.
If anybody was seriously interested in one they could do a little bit of research and find out that it would be a good solution-- but it seems as though the people on the bare light bulb side just want to come up with reasons why nothing will work, other than telling their neighbor to FO, of course.
People who don't have them, or don't know any better, have already insisted that they "flash off and on all night" like every time a bug flies by. Something which isn't the case, or at least not if one knows what they're doing, they can be adjusted.
If anybody was seriously interested in one they could do a little bit of research and find out that it would be a good solution-- but it seems as though the people on the bare light bulb side just want to come up with reasons why nothing will work, other than telling their neighbor to FO, of course.
It also makes a difference if the op's light is an up or down facing light. I've asked but never heard. Not too many bugs fly by when it is dark
It also makes a difference if the op's light is an up or down facing light. I've asked but never heard. Not too many bugs fly by when it is dark
I would say that a combination of a motion-activated light, pointed adjacent to the side yard, NOT pointed towards the neighbors house, would be an acceptable compromise for the near future.
Planting trees or tall shrubs (when mature) would be an added long-term solution to aid in blocking light when it does come on. One comment on this though... I think the OP should bear the responsibility and expense of planting on HIS/HER property, not expect the neighbor to purchase, install, and maintain said landscaping on their own property, just because you decided to introduce an unnecessarily-obtrusive and annoying element to your property (i.e., a full-on blazing constant light, vs. a motion-activated one.)
This is how you be a considerate, cooperative neighbor - you find a mutually-agreeable solution, instead of expecting the other party to bear the brunt and expense alone of finding solutions to deal with this issue.
Otherwise, you can expect to enjoy the long-term acrimony with your neighbor that your action will create.
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