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Old 02-21-2019, 12:57 PM
 
Location: Caverns measureless to man...
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As usual, Brooks' approach is highly reductive.
When he's right, it's a trait that serves him very well, because he just lasers right in on the heart of the matter.

But when he doesn't have a good point... my god, it's almost physically painful to work your way through the convolutions!
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Old 02-26-2019, 04:42 PM
 
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ďThe strong are as likely to segregate as the weak are to congregate.Ē

No thanks to any form of collectivism, I like my hyperindividualism. I extend the meaning of my individual interests to any friends and family and whatever I care about, so me being generous with my friends or my GF is me protecting my interests. Life isnít lived at some bizarre collectivist level and I donít care about ďsociety,Ē itís not a thing. There are only individuals living their lives, not some abstract society and certainly Iím not here to serve society like a slave, either Iíll rule over it or itíll serve me but I am not a tool and I wonít be used by a nebulous society. Individuals move society forward as a whole, and history is written by the winners. My view of history is as a heroic existentialist. I donít care about the masses, only the great individuals.
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Old 02-26-2019, 05:24 PM
 
Location: Southwest Washington State
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ďThe strong are as likely to segregate as the weak are to congregate.Ē

No thanks to any form of collectivism, I like my hyperindividualism. I extend the meaning of my individual interests to any friends and family and whatever I care about, so me being generous with my friends or my GF is me protecting my interests. Life isnít lived at some bizarre collectivist level and I donít care about ďsociety,Ē itís not a thing. There are only individuals living their lives, not some abstract society and certainly Iím not here to serve society like a slave, either Iíll rule over it or itíll serve me but I am not a tool and I wonít be used by a nebulous society. Individuals move society forward as a whole, and history is written by the winners. My view of history is as a heroic existentialist. I donít care about the masses, only the great individuals.
You are wrong. There is society. Even in primitive societies, there is society. And you need the underpinnings of government and social expectations to give you stability, or to provide a thing to rebel against.

Here is the thing: we are none of us as unique as we think we are, nor as self sufficient as we wish to be. If you were to suffer calamity, you would need others to come to your aid.

And you can be ďa winnerĒ and have a miserable inner life.

Let me guess: you read Ayn Rand when you were in high school. Rand actually lived on welfare at the end of her life. That is food for thought.
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Old 03-01-2019, 11:02 PM
 
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That was drek. Utter drek. I'm inspired to forget it as soon as possible. That won't be hard.

Yes, social isolation IS a problem, but you can have my "hyperindividuality" when you pry it from my COLD DEAD HANDS.

I'm grateful for individualism. It is individualism that allowed me to kick over the traces and leave my abusive family.

It is individualism that made it possible for me to work my way through college without any support from my parents and against the wishes of my mother.

Individualism, again, allowed me to marry someone from another country, have a child who has always been a joy to me, and to then divorce when that relationship became abusive.

Individualism allowed me to escape gender stereotypes I got a degree in software engineering back when women were barely allowed to go to college at all, let alone to go into a field that had up to that time been wholly a male prerogative, because - individualism.

This state of hyperindividualism you vilify has existed for nearly my entire life, and I am OH SO GRATEFUL!!!
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