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Old 04-24-2019, 01:34 AM
 
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I've decided to stop eating processed meats since they cause colon cancer. I've been going strong for the past few weeks, but today my best friend asked me if I wanted to go out to eat at Chick-Fil-A for lunch. I told him no and that I still don't ever want to eat processed meat ever again. He argued that chicken isn't processed meat and that even if it was, the occasional piece of chicken won't hurt me. I told him that she was wrong and I said to him "Once you get colon cancer, don't say that I didn't warn you."

Now he's not answering my calls or texts and I'm wondering if it's really THAT big of a deal what I did. How do I talk to him about this? Who's the bad guy in this situation?
That is your choice and he doesn't understand. Continue to live your life as you wish. If he comes back to ask questions about it, answer it and tell him that it is your choice to live your life this way and hope he can respect that, if not, just move forward with your own life.

Please have some empathy to someone who may not understand your choice and I sure hope that you spoke kindly to him as how you would wish someone to be with you.
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Old 04-24-2019, 01:41 AM
 
Location: PNW
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I've decided to stop eating processed meats since they cause colon cancer. I've been going strong for the past few weeks, but today my best friend asked me if I wanted to go out to eat at Chick-Fil-A for lunch. I told him no and that I still don't ever want to eat processed meat ever again. He argued that chicken isn't processed meat and that even if it was, the occasional piece of chicken won't hurt me. I told him that she was wrong and I said to him "Once you get colon cancer, don't say that I didn't warn you."

Now he's not answering my calls or texts and I'm wondering if it's really THAT big of a deal what I did. How do I talk to him about this? Who's the bad guy in this situation?
Your friend felt that you two lost a connection with the food thing, as it's likely not something you will happily share again.

I do think your comment about the colon cancer sounded condescending was the salt on the wound. He may or may not come around but if he does, just have drinks instead.
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Old 04-24-2019, 04:32 AM
 
Location: on the wind
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I'm 22 and I don't really know about risk factors. My family in general doesn't have a history of any cancer, I abstain from drinking and smoking, I exercise around 3-4 times a week, and I'm the average weight for my age. (If anything, my doctor has said that I'm slightly underweight.)
Ah. So you felt you were entitled to deliver a lecture despite being ignorant about the subject? Got it. It's one thing to know what you are talking about (and making suggestions to someone supposedly for their own good) but quite another to blurt out what is basically a personal opinion without understanding or experience to back it up. Knowledgeable or not, how you chose to handle this was vindictive. You aren't going to win any personal crusade using brute force alone. Those who want respect need to give it.

Adding this little humble brag doesn't justify it either OP. You might want to check to see what other aspects of your life you are this self-righteous about. Holding up that shining beacon while sitting on top of your mountain is a very lonely existence; especially without an audience.

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Old 04-24-2019, 04:42 AM
 
Location: on the wind
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If he was a true friend, what you said should not bother him. He can eat what he wants, obviously and so can you.

I think your friend is the one who sounds like a jerk.
Even "true" friends don't deserve to be insulted so unjustly or sit back and take it without objecting to the callous delivery. How ironic...hearing this reply from you; someone who comments all the time about how fiercely you should be allowed to reject the beliefs of others in favor of yours. Taking a stand is only permissible for you? Everyone else should just let others trample all over them?

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Old 04-24-2019, 06:20 AM
 
Location: Camberville
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I'm 22 and I don't really know about risk factors. My family in general doesn't have a history of any cancer, I abstain from drinking and smoking, I exercise around 3-4 times a week, and I'm the average weight for my age. (If anything, my doctor has said that I'm slightly underweight.)
Sounds like me right before I was diagnosed with stage IV lymphoma at 23. Also sounds like my friend who was diagnosed with colon cancer at 23. We went to chemo every other week together. He grew up in a Japanese-American family with a traditional Japanese diet. I doubt there was much processed meat in his house, and yet here he is with an ostomy all the same.

Don't go crying to your "friend" who you treat so poorly if you are diagnosed with one of the 100+ other cancers.
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Old 04-24-2019, 06:43 AM
 
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I'm 22 and I don't really know about risk factors. My family in general doesn't have a history of any cancer, I abstain from drinking and smoking, I exercise around 3-4 times a week, and I'm the average weight for my age. (If anything, my doctor has said that I'm slightly underweight.)
Well, if you are of African American or Eastern European Jewish heritage your risk of colon cancer is much higher. (Source: American Cancer Society)

Do you have freckles around the mouth or hands/feet? You might have a genetic predisposition to colon cancer. (Source: American Cancer Society)

There are many things that cause colon cancer. You seem pretty concerned about getting it so you should learn more.

One study even showed higher incidence rates were not attributable to red meat:

We documented 1,965 new colorectal cancer cases (1,527 in NHS and 438 in NHS II) during 24 years of follow‐up. In both cohorts, women with longer duration of shift work were older, had a greater BMI, and were more likely to smoke (with more pack‐years of smoking), but they reported lower alcohol consumption and higher levels of physical activity, compared to never shift workers (Table ​(Table1).1). Long‐term night shift workers were more likely to have a lower educational level or a husband with a lower educational level compared to day workers, while no significant differences were observed in reported dietary habits known to predict colorectal cancer risk, such as folate, fiber, and red meat consumption.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6235706/

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Old 04-24-2019, 06:46 AM
 
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Heavily processed meats not only contain harmful additives, but the amino acids in their proteins have been damaged to the point that they have little good nutritive value. The old saying about first having to hit a mule across the head with a 2X4, to get his attention, applies to your friend.
This = road to having no friends. Good luck.
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Old 04-24-2019, 08:17 AM
 
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I'm 22 and I don't really know about risk factors. My family in general doesn't have a history of any cancer, I abstain from drinking and smoking, I exercise around 3-4 times a week, and I'm the average weight for my age. (If anything, my doctor has said that I'm slightly underweight.)
Reading some of your other threads - this one is not about you being concerned about your friend.
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Old 04-24-2019, 08:36 AM
 
Location: Wilmington, NC
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Yum! At Chik-Fil-A you can get:

Side salad
Superfood side salad (kale) with raisins and nuts
Greek yogurt fruit parfait
Fruit cup
Apple sauce
Waffle potato fries
Milkshakes
Chocolate chip cookies
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Old 04-24-2019, 08:43 AM
 
Location: Texas
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This is not the case at least not now. The Marketplace salad is $7.99 with chicken, $5.99 without. There is also a side salad that is meatless, and a meatless “Superfood” side with kale and other healthy veggies, no meat. You can also get fries, a Greek yogurt parfait, fruit cup or a multigrain bagel. .
I have not seen any of these offered at my local Chik-Fil-A, except for the fries.
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