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Old 04-26-2019, 12:31 PM
 
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I've waited tables for 25 years and I can honestly say that 75% of the time when people order they make some sort of change to the entree. We're used to it, it doesn't bother us, it's no big deal.
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Old 04-26-2019, 12:47 PM
 
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One thing is to literally ask for a dish that is not listed on the menu, and describe to the waiter the basic ingredients and how to cook it if he is not familiar with it.


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I've done that with a favorite bar drink no one else in history has ever heard of.
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Old 04-26-2019, 02:10 PM
 
Location: on the wind
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I love this! Thanks for a laugh to start my day.
Yes, THAT is sneaking up to the "ridiculous" line. If I had to listen to this from the same person more than once I'd probably ask them why they even bother going there to eat. Maybe that would be considered passive aggressive on my part?
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Old 04-26-2019, 03:01 PM
 
Location: So Cal
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They are asking, not demanding. I have asked for a dish that used to be on the menu, and they made it for me, another time they no longer carried the ingredients.
One time I couldn't find one of my all-time favorite dishes on the menu. I asked if they had discontinued it and they said they had but offered to make it for me anyway. Yes, please! I was thrilled. lol (Then later they ended up going out of business. )

Everyone always used to "whisper" about how In-N-Out Burger had a "secret menu" of items you could order that weren't on the main menu. Now their website actually shows the "Not-So-Secret menu." They explain that it was just special orders that people would request and that's how it came about. (Since it's burgers, fries and shakes, it was basically about condiments, having it "protein-style" [wrapped in lettuce, no bun]; stuff like that.)
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Old 04-26-2019, 04:33 PM
 
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I'm gluten intolerant. I don't think asking if something can be made without bread is unreasonable (like getting a burger without a bun). I don't want to be limited to just eating salads.

However I don't bother asking waitstaff if something contains gluten, because 9 times out of 10, they have no idea. That's a dangerous gamble to take.
You must go to poorly run restaurants then. Every restaurant I ever worked at had that type of information easily available to the customers. It's a question that gets asked a lot, so after awhile, servers become very familiar with the list and can easily say what meals are glutton free, or what substitutions can be made. We would also list it on the order when sending it back to the kitchen so that they too were aware of any dietary restrictions.
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Old 04-26-2019, 04:46 PM
 
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"I'd like a cheeseburger without the cheese."

"So a hamburger?"

"No, I said a cheeseburger without the cheese! Ugh!!"
This must be why anytime I order a cheeseburger with modifications, I'm asked if I want cheese.

Well, I did say cheeseburger...
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Old 04-26-2019, 05:18 PM
 
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It's not quite as extreme as Jack Nicholson getting angry in the diner scene of "Five Easy Pieces" but this is sort of along the same lines.

What do you think when your lunch or dinner companion always wants to order special items that either aren't listed on the menu, or else always wants to modify the available menu items? Some go so far as to almost describe something that the waiter has never heard of.

I want to think the best of these people. But sometimes they make me nervous, and I worry that they might be offending the wait staff by being overly demanding. Even though, at the same time, something tells me that there might be a method to their madness.

What do you think of these people? Do you enjoy eating out with them?
I order things off the menu, as-is. No customization unless I'm ordering a pizza, and then it's customary to select your toppings. It seems that everyone I know can't get through a lunch or dinner without asking for "with no _____" or "with sauce / dressing on the side".

It's a control thing. Not abusive control. But they have to put their "touch" on everything in some way.
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Old 04-26-2019, 05:27 PM
 
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This must be why anytime I order a cheeseburger with modifications, I'm asked if I want cheese.

Well, I did say cheeseburger...
I hate to say it, but having worked at McDonald's, I wouldn't be surprised if someone ordered a cheeseburger... without cheese, or ordered a cheeseburger, then complained when it had cheese on it (it's been a long time but it's possible I actually saw one or both of those things happen).

I learned very quickly there that many of the customers who treated me like *I* was dumb because I was working at a fast-food joint were the real idiots.
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Old 04-26-2019, 05:39 PM
 
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You must go to poorly run restaurants then. Every restaurant I ever worked at had that type of information easily available to the customers. It's a question that gets asked a lot, so after awhile, servers become very familiar with the list and can easily say what meals are glutton free, or what substitutions can be made. We would also list it on the order when sending it back to the kitchen so that they too were aware of any dietary restrictions.
I'm not going to debate whether I go to poorly run restaurants. Perhaps you've worked at great restaurants. Some restaurants do very well. Many do not. I believe in personal responsibility. I am responsible for my own well being, and I'm not willing to trust that the waitstaff is properly trained. I also don't expect waitstaff to be as knowledgeable as I am after 5 years of being GF. I'm the one who ends up sick if they aren't.
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Old 04-26-2019, 05:51 PM
 
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I'm not going to debate whether I go to poorly run restaurants. Perhaps you've worked at great restaurants. Some restaurants do very well. Many do not. I believe in personal responsibility. I am responsible for my own well being, and I'm not willing to trust that the waitstaff is properly trained. I also don't expect waitstaff to be as knowledgeable as I am after 5 years of being GF. I'm the one who ends up sick if they aren't.
I guess I just don't see why you would go to a restaurant if you think the servers are poorly trained.

It's not always obvious what has gluten in it, especially if its made in house. As another poster said, some restaurants put flour in their potatoes. I remember having customers argue with me because a salad dressing had to be gf because it was glutton free elsewhere. For whatever reason, ours wasn't.

But as you say, you'll be the one who ends up sick. The servers and kitchen staff go through extensive training on the menu. They're the ones who know every ingredient that is in a dish, or at least know exactly where to look up such information. But sure, pretend like being gf somehow makes you more knowledgeable than the actual restaurant staff.
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