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Old 03-08-2017, 11:50 AM
 
Location: The place where the road & the sky collide
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That's actually irrelevant. Look at the rural areas in Southern Appalachia (western NC, northern GA, eastern TN, etc.) and my argument still stands. Even so, I'm Black and am quite knowledgeable about the cultural impacts of Blacks in the rural South.



No; I am rebutting this argument:
To say that rural areas in other parts of the country are "as much Dixie as the South without the drawl" is just ridiculous. Certainly there are some aspects of rural living that are consistent across the country (e.g., prevalence of hunting and fishing, agriculture, etc.), but there are still significant cultural differences between the rural South and rural areas in other regions of the country.

Otherwise, I feel that you don't have a sense of degrees of differences. I say that south Jersey has noticeably more Quaker, Catholic, and Episcopal churches than fundamentalist, evangelical churches and you interpret that as me saying that the area has no evangelical churches.
I never said that you think that there are no evangelical churches in South Jersey. Reread what you did say, then look up Rev Carl McIntyre. His followers, outside of South Jersey, were to the south. When he lost his radio license, he bought a boat & ran a pirate radio station off the coast of Cape May. He was the radio equivalent of Falwell & Baker.

My sister has lived in Pitman for about 40 years. It started as a Methodist camp. As her kids were growing up, some of the mothers made it clear to my sister that my niece & nephew would be on their radar when their kids got to be dating age, since they would be "fresh blood". That was the point that my sister realized that most of the town was related to each other.

As there tends to be more variety of religion in the north & the northern parts of the MidAtlantic, the unspoken rule is to not bring up religion. That doesn't mean that if you work with someone, have them as a neighbor, etc, that an Evangelical in that area will not become aggressive. My maternal grandma was Pentecostal & never spoke about religion to her grandchildren because her kids (2 Methodists & 2 Catholics ) forbade it. That is probably northern, but as more denominations become more numerous in NC, I guarantee that it's an attitude that will come to the area, not that some people don't already have it. I will say that 2 of the 3 individuals who have been obnoxious about their Evangelical religious views to me, here, have been Yankees. They thought it was OK because they were below the Mason Dixon line. One has been asked to stay away at the public library, because she can't keep her religious views to herself. Respecting differences comes with variety.
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Old 03-08-2017, 04:43 PM
 
Location: Raleigh, NC
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Is NC a southern state? I think Phil Berger and our "goober" GA can answer that for ya! lol
It has nothing to do with that--we are and were a "Southern" state even when Democrats ran the GA which was only a few years ago.

Cultural identity =/= which political party is running things.
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Old 03-08-2017, 04:44 PM
 
Location: Raleigh, NC
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I have to say, I was surprised by how seldom I saw the stars & bars when I moved here, not disappointed, just surprised.
Which just goes to show that the stereotypes you'd been taught were false.
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Old 03-08-2017, 08:21 PM
 
Location: The place where the road & the sky collide
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Which just goes to show that the stereotypes you'd been taught were false.
I wasn't taught anything about people flying the stars & bars in NC. That might come as a surprise & be somewhat disappointing for you. I assumed that, considering the frequency that I was used to seeing it, that I would see it about the same frequency. I almost never see it here.
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Old 03-08-2017, 08:23 PM
 
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Which just goes to show that the stereotypes you'd been taught were false.
Well it's kinda hard to say that without knowing what her expectations were. But you can't go too long without seeing some sort of Confederate paraphernalia in the rural South, or even parts of the urban South for that matter. Those folks went into overdrive after the flag was finally removed from Statehouse grounds in Columbia.
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Old 03-09-2017, 09:07 AM
 
Location: Raleigh, NC
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Well it's kinda hard to say that without knowing what her expectations were. .
I was noting that she was "surprised not to see many here", which is evidence that her expectations were that she would see a lot.
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Old 03-09-2017, 09:15 AM
 
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I was noting that she was "surprised not to see many here", which is evidence that her expectations were that she would see a lot.
True, but I don't know what "a lot" for her is. She could've been expecting to see a new display of the flag every other day, or maybe just once a few months. Either way, it's not exactly unusual to see some sort of Confederate paraphernalia on display every now and then in the rural parts of the former Confederacy, especially the parts where Whites are a majority. It's pretty ironic today in that you'll see more displays of the flag in Appalachia than in the coastal plain/"Deep South" areas where slavery was actually a lot more prevalent.
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Old 03-09-2017, 09:52 AM
 
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I see Confederate flags constantly around towns in Appalachia like Boone, NC or Mountain City, TN, definitely ironic. In Raleigh and eastern NC, I don't see it as often.
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Old 03-09-2017, 09:55 AM
 
Location: Chapelboro
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I drive past Confederate flags every day in Alamance County. You do seem to see them more on trailers —*that's where the ones I drive past are.
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Old 03-09-2017, 10:15 AM
 
Location: Carrboro, NC
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In rural NC you'll see the confederate flags, but they're uncommon in the cities.
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