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Unread 08-11-2007, 09:42 PM
 
Location: Knoxville Metro, TN
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I don't think I've come across anyone down here who was directly involved in the Civil War. We live in modern times, so really...that whole Civil War thing...it's history, over and done and really doesn't apply.
Southerners, unlike the rest of the country has an EXTREMELY long memory, or haven't you noticed yet. Why, the War of Northern Aggression wasn't all that long ago really. (Gee, can you hear my southern drawl????)

The Amish was just the first group that popped in my head. The hills of Appalachia is another, the mountain folk of the Ozarks are another. The Creole people of Louisiana is another group. I'm sure there are more.

Yes, there is a certain level of prejudice there...but to be fair, we all suffer from that. No one is free of prejudice.

To be fair, storm's post bothered me too..

When I posted my list, I edited some out of it that I did NOT care for, there were parts of it that were just too "in your face" as well. Just so you can see the original list I used, here it is: Redneck humour

Liz

 
Unread 08-11-2007, 10:00 PM
 
Location: Lake Norman area, NC. Formerly Michigan.
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First, I have to say that running to the grocery store at the threat of bad weather is not only common in the south, but the north as well. As someone who worked 8 years in a grocery store, it was amazing. We'd have 6 inches of snow on the ground already and if they called for 3 more people were buying us out of everything. At my store, we joked that it was going to snow! Better go to the store to get some ice cream! (not joking!)


I have been a transplant a whole 4 days now. Frankly, this thread terrifies me! I just moved here completely alone (I am early/mid twenties) to teach. Since people are fleeing the northern states like crazy, it is impossible to find a teaching position in my area. The population is decreasing at an alarming rate. So, unless I want to waste my education (and tens of thousands of dollars), I have to follow the population increase. Which, I guess, makes me part of the problem. I hope that I am able to not step on toes and make people angry! I am especially worried about how the parents of my students will take to me being a "yankee". I just want to teach, since it is what I truly love to do. I will try not to complain (and so far, I really only have one complaint. I can't find any bread I like!).

Oh, and I am not a tailgater, I seem to be a tailgatee. I have found that the speed limit really means +15 or more! At home, I went about +5. Here, I have been getting tailgated going +10!!! I wonder if it'll help if I stick some 8 stickers all over my car. j/k. (I do have a 9 sticker!)

Please be nice to the shy teacher from Michigan.
 
Unread 08-11-2007, 10:12 PM
 
Location: Wherever the next boycott is
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Originally Posted by southernlady5464 View Post
Southerners, unlike the rest of the country has an EXTREMELY long memory, or haven't you noticed yet. Why, the War of Northern Aggression wasn't all that long ago really. (Gee, can you hear my southern drawl????)
Okay, but let me ask you this...do you, or anyone else that you know, know of on this board, remember the Civil War? I'd take a wild guess (a really wild one actually ) that says you weren't even alive for it, meaning there'd be nothing for you, or anyone else, to remember. Between two World Wars, Korea, Vietnam, the Gulf War, Afghanistan/Iraq and every other piece of American history in between, the country's been through so much between the war of northern aggression and now where it should seem as ancient as the revolutionary war. Apparently southerners have such good memories that they can remember the stuff they were never even alive for.

Don't worry though, long memories aren't unique to southerners either.
 
Unread 08-11-2007, 10:13 PM
 
Location: Knoxville Metro, TN
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I can't find any bread I like!
Welcome to NC from another one from MI, I spent the last 6 years in Monroe.

As to the bread, depends on what you are use to. I usually buy Pepperidge Farm or Arnold's. Tad more expensive but it lasts longer and tastes better.

What city did you move to? Liz
 
Unread 08-11-2007, 10:19 PM
 
Location: Knoxville Metro, TN
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Okay, but let me ask you this...do you, or anyone else that you know, know of on this board, remember the Civil War?
I can come close...my grandfather was born right after the WONA (aka the Civil War) and his daddy did remember it vividly. My grandfather would tell me tales about it...so would my grandmother, my great grandmother, my great great aunts (they lived to be 103/104 and just died about 3 years ago). It may have been 140 odd years ago but it's only been 3 generations back in my family from me. Liz
 
Unread 08-11-2007, 11:03 PM
 
Location: Lake Norman area, NC. Formerly Michigan.
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Welcome to NC from another one from MI, I spent the last 6 years in Monroe.

As to the bread, depends on what you are use to. I usually buy Pepperidge Farm or Arnold's. Tad more expensive but it lasts longer and tastes better.

What city did you move to? Liz

I am in Cornelius from the Flint area. I can't find Aunt Millies or Taystee bread anywhere! I am actually not picky about the brand, but I like Buttertop Wheat. I can find Buttertop White and Whole Grain Wheat, but I like the not-so-good for you wheat! lol. My mom is driving the UHaul to me on Thursday and I told her to bring a loaf of bread! LOL. Oops. Complaining I guess... But, other than bread (and getting lost[my fault] and getting tailgated [possibly my fault-coming from getting lost, I guess]), I am complaint free!
 
Unread 08-11-2007, 11:06 PM
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Okay, but let me ask you this...do you, or anyone else that you know, know of on this board, remember the Civil War? I'd take a wild guess (a really wild one actually ) that says you weren't even alive for it, meaning there'd be nothing for you, or anyone else, to remember. Between two World Wars, Korea, Vietnam, the Gulf War, Afghanistan/Iraq and every other piece of American history in between, the country's been through so much between the war of northern aggression and now where it should seem as ancient as the revolutionary war. Apparently southerners have such good memories that they can remember the stuff they were never even alive for.

Don't worry though, long memories aren't unique to southerners either.
My ancestors lived in the mountains and I don't think one of them owned a slave. They did fight in the War for States Rights. We lost that war and we lost a lot of states rights in the process. We lost the right to have prayer in our schools, we lost the right to stop the murder of unborn children, etc. These were not in question at the time, but that was when we lost the right to have the state decide these issues. Our history teachers explained to us why it was good for most of us that the South lost the War Between the States. The curiosity to me is that the people move here from the North and mention that we need to get over the Civil War? I have no idea what they are talking about, but I despise their negative attitudes and condescending manner. Could that "northern aggression" be what started the Civil War in the first place. In the South we just sort of went on with our lives as much as usual as we could minding our own business as we always had done. Can you imagine that I memorized the 23rd Psalms in a public school classroom in the third grade. Maybe the Civil War is just becoming a reality to some of us when others come here and start telling us how we are supposed to do things. We were getting along just fine before they got here. Maybe they should ask us how they should do things. We have made North Carolina "a better place to be."
 
Unread 08-11-2007, 11:24 PM
 
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I can come close...my grandfather was born right after the WONA (aka the Civil War) and his daddy did remember it vividly. My grandfather would tell me tales about it...so would my grandmother, my great grandmother, my great great aunts (they lived to be 103/104 and just died about 3 years ago). It may have been 140 odd years ago but it's only been 3 generations back in my family from me. Liz
It's been 142 years since and America has changed radically since then. I'm sure I could trace it back somewhere in my lineage to someone who would remember it as well. But it doesn't mean I should hold it as some sort of dominance against someone from the south. It doesn't apply to me, nor should it apply to future generations.

We can go in circles on this forever but really, bottom line, is that even though something ended 142 years ago it's still being brought up and used against northerners. 142 years later, really, who cares.
 
Unread 08-12-2007, 06:28 AM
 
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Brian, I couldn't have said that better myself!
 
Unread 08-12-2007, 06:36 AM
 
Location: Knoxville Metro, TN
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that even though something ended 142 years ago
That sounds a whole lot longer than just 3 generations when you think about it, doesn't it? Liz
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