Right to carry arms on North Carolina College's Campus (property, jobs)

[jskirwin]

There are efforts underway to overturn laws prohibiting CCW on campuses, but AFAIK it's still illegal in NC.

You asked for opinion, so here's mine. Self-protection is a basic human right, so I believe that students should be allowed to carry on campuses. If they are too immature to handle guns, then they shouldn't be drinking, driving, having sex or doing a myriad of other "grown up" things that college students do.

[saucystargazer]

Originally Posted by Time2Travel

I'm pretty sure a bow and arrow aren't considered firearms. Although they certainly fall into the category of "weapon" and an arrow in motion is most certainly a projectile I don't know of any law that prohibits having them on a college campus. There is after all such a thing as collegiate archery.

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I know 100% without a doubt that WCU considers it a weapon and would assume its the same across all UNC public schools. My younger brother is a student there and asked what the rules were because he hunts. We talked with campus police and that was an exact quote from the officer. Any type of weapon even for sport can get you a felony. Same reason you can't take weapons into a federal building.


Furthermore when I was in high school I knew someone who had a bushwhacking knife in his car, unfortunately in plain view. Campus police saw it during a parking lot walk and he got expelled permanently. It was a pretty horrible thing to happen especially considering the circumstances and it would be stupid to take that chance.

I'm sure the rifle/archery teams have a different set of rules and obviously a military campus is in its own league. In general though the coach probably keeps track of the weapons when not practicing or something. I imagine they aren't allowed to just carry them around and keep them in their dorm. You know that umbrella that got confused for a gun today at ECU? Imagine students carrying around weapons, that would become a problem real quick, team or no team.

[PIR8tes12]

I've had many students in my class that have had bows sticking out of their book bags. That is a class here at ECU. I'm sure they are allowed to carry the arrows, but just not the bows.

[zthatzmanz28]

Originally Posted by PIR8tes12

I'm a student at ECU. For those of you who don't know, we had/have a gunman on campus today. This is the first time I have really thought about carrying a gun for personal protection. Do you think it should be legal to carry on a college campus?

I heard it was a person armed with an umbrella?

[DaddySpice]

To the OP: If you were allowed to carry a gun on campus, then wouldn't you be a "gunman on campus"?

[box_of_zip_disks]

Originally Posted by zthatzmanz28

I heard it was a person armed with an umbrella?

Indeed. Which means if we outlaw umbrellas, then only outlaws will have umbrellas. What's next, banning ponchos?

[Boss]

Originally Posted by jskirwin

There are efforts underway to overturn laws prohibiting CCW on campuses, but AFAIK it's still illegal in NC.

You asked for opinion, so here's mine. Self-protection is a basic human right, so I believe that students should be allowed to carry on campuses. If they are too immature to handle guns, then they shouldn't be drinking, driving, having sex or doing a myriad of other "grown up" things that college students do.

I think that the one day class to get a carry permit is to short. We hire people to protect us and they are called police. They are trained to do this.

I have no problem with people who carry guns,but think they need more training. We all know not to aim at someone but the extra training to know when to use a gun is needed.

[Maverick9110e]

ABSOLUTELY! All "gun restriction" laws do is keep law abiding citizens from being able to defend themselves. Do you really think if a person set out to go do someone harm on campus really cares if your not allowed to have a firearm on the property?
The constitution allows me to be able to protect myself, why ANYONE thinks that the ability to be able to defend myself should be stripped away from me is beyond me.
People tend to live in this bubble that think if they "legislate" firearms away and make "gun free" zones that it will be safer. While time and time again it has been proven that all your doing is giving criminals and those that will do harm more of a "target rich" environment. Places where the perpetrator will know that no one is carrying and can defend themselves.
College's these days think they are taking the better road, of instead of allowing people to exercise their rights and defend themselves, that you should go run and hide and lock your doors and pray nothing bad comes your way. I refuse to believe that by doing so, it is the best alternative.

[Maverick9110e]

Originally Posted by Boss

I think that the one day class to get a carry permit is to short. We hire people to protect us and they are called police. They are trained to do this.

I have no problem with people who carry guns,but think they need more training. We all know not to aim at someone but the extra training to know when to use a gun is needed.

The police are not there to protect you and are not required to. The supreme court ruled on that. They are also not expert marksmen most people make them out to be. There are a lot of civilians out there that can shoot better then the police. The bottom line is if you aren't willing to get the training on your own and practice on your own, your most likely not going to even learn through mandated training.


But again, as far as the police goes, say your just sitting on the lawn, and someone 25-30 feet away decides to pull a gun and starts going off on people. Would you rather have a cell phone to call 911, or a firearm?

[box_of_zip_disks]

It's obvious none of you guys coming up with these wild west fantasy scenarios have ever actually been in a situation where you've been shot at because that's not how they happen. It's either a specific one-on-one or small group conflict which escalates into a shooting (the overwhelming majority) or in the very rare case of an actual gunman going ham on a crowded area, it's a specific planned event in which the likelihood of other armed individuals is never taken into consideration since the gunman almost never plans to survive the incident anyway. At best being armed in a scenario like that means the gunman commits suicide by bystander instead of suicide by cop.