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Old 03-28-2013, 07:21 AM
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Location: The Sand Hills of NC
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Where did the Southern accent come from? Since the original settlers were from Europe being mostly Scottish and Irish I doubt they sounded like Andy Griffith.
Could it be that the Southern plantation owners who had " hired help" raising their children and "hired help" working in the fields that all came from Africa that those children all learned their accents from being around the "help" who were also trying to learn how to speak English.
Those people who grew up in the North never had the African language influence their way of speaking so their accent is more natural to the original settlers than the Southern accent. What you have up North is a lot of early 20th century immigrants from Italy, Germany, Poland that has influenced their language.
Those Southerners from Louisiana have the French influence in their accents.

Like an earlier poster said you adapt the accent of those who you live and work around.
If your proud of your adopted accent, thank your ancestors.
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Old 03-28-2013, 07:24 PM
 
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Where did the Southern accent come from? Since the original settlers were from Europe being mostly Scottish and Irish I doubt they sounded like Andy Griffith.
Could it be that the Southern plantation owners who had " hired help" raising their children and "hired help" working in the fields that all came from Africa that those children all learned their accents from being around the "help" who were also trying to learn how to speak English.
Those people who grew up in the North never had the African language influence their way of speaking so their accent is more natural to the original settlers than the Southern accent. What you have up North is a lot of early 20th century immigrants from Italy, Germany, Poland that has influenced their language.
Those Southerners from Louisiana have the French influence in their accents.

Like an earlier poster said you adapt the accent of those who you live and work around.
If your proud of your adopted accent, thank your ancestors.
Nice try, but there were slaves in the North, too. Also, the planter class represented a very, very small percentage of the overall population of the antebellum South.
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Old 03-28-2013, 09:04 PM
 
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I'm a northerner living in eastern NC and the southern accent here is really strong. My child goes to daycare with an older woman who's accent sounds like caramel dripping out of her mouth. Long story short, my child has a southern accent.
Well tell your child not to be braggin too much about it to his friends,,No one likes a bragger you know
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Old 03-28-2013, 09:08 PM
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Nice try, but there were slaves in the North, too. Also, the planter class represented a very, very small percentage of the overall population of the antebellum South.
Nice try for what? You learn your accents from those around you, it's as simple as that.
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Old 03-28-2013, 10:12 PM
 
Location: Raleigh, NC
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Nice try for what? You learn your accents from those around you, it's as simple as that.
In fact it is the Scottish influence, not African, that is most responsible for most of the phonemes that distinguish the Southern dialect.
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Old 03-29-2013, 06:38 AM
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In fact it is the Scottish influence, not African, that is most responsible for most of the phonemes that distinguish the Southern dialect.
If you say so, but I'm not hearing any Scottish accents from my neighbors down here. What I do hear is the white guy with the same accent as the black guy.
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Old 03-29-2013, 08:36 AM
 
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Well there are different accents in the South, but it's pretty well documented that the Southern accents stem from the English, Scottish and Scots-Irish (Ulster Scots) who emigrated to this region. That's why you can currently hear both Southerners and British using similar words and phrases like "reckon".

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Old 03-29-2013, 09:39 AM
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Well there are different accents in the South, but it's pretty well documented that the Southern accents stem from the English, Scottish and Scots-Irish (Ulster Scots) who emigrated to this region. That's why you can currently hear both Southerners and British using similar words and phrases like "reckon".

Do You Speak American . Sea to Shining Sea . American Varieties . Southern | PBS
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Maybe those Scotch/ Irish like my ancesters who settled in NY came from Northern Ireland and those Scotch/ Irish who settled in Virginia came from Southern Ireland, thus the Southern accent.
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Old 03-29-2013, 09:50 AM
 
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Scotch-Irish or Ulster-Scots refers to the Scottish people the British government sent to the Ulster region of Scotland in the 17th C to confiscate Catholic lands and settle the region with Protestants. Irish are different folk and a different accent.

NC has far fewer people of Irish descent. In fact, I have read that there are more people of Scottish descent in NC than anywhere in the world including Scotland.
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Old 03-29-2013, 10:21 AM
 
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Maybe those Scotch/ Irish like my ancesters who settled in NY came from Northern Ireland and those Scotch/ Irish who settled in Virginia came from Southern Ireland, thus the Southern accent.
Nah, The Scotch-Irish were all the same, sort of. The majority of them entered the port of Philadelphia & a lot of them ended up in the Piedmont of NC, within a generation or two, thus the strong ties between the accents in Fluffya & Balmer with the Piedmont. There are weakened accents in both areas where it is difficult to discern a difference. In my opinion, they are merging. Many of the Highland Scots ended up in the mountains, along with Scotch-Irish & Germans.

Studying 18th century settlements & migrations goes a long way to explaining the base of regional accents on the east coast, which then underwent changes in the 19th & 20th centuries for the same reasons. The non-rhotic thing happened in the 19th century, on the east coast, except in Philadelphia & Baltimore. They held onto most of their Rs.
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