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May I ask an honest question as kindly as I can possibly do so? Please read this as if I'm talking quietly and respectfully.
Civil unions or marriages for gay couples. Should the same rationale be used for siblings being married or to justify polygamy?
I had a difficult time trying to understand your post, but I think I understand it now.
The difference is you don't have a certain group of people being able to engage in polygamous nor incest unions. There are Civil Unions and certain people are being discriminated against based on their sexuality. Just as it used to be on skin color, also.
May I ask an honest question as kindly as I can possibly do so? Please read this as if I'm talking quietly and respectfully.
Civil unions or marriages for gay couples. Should the same rationale be used for siblings being married or to justify polygamy?
lol....I love those questions.
"So if gays can get married, are we going to allow people to marry goats?"
"So if gays can get married, are we also going to allow grownups to marry 5 year olds?"
Seriously...what consenting adults do doesn't bother me, poligamy doesn't bother me....no one is talking about incest here.
First cousins can marry in NC, but gays can't marry? what's wrong with THAT picture?
Dr. Daniel Heimbach, (Southeastern Baptist Theological Seminary): "If marriage is radically redefined as being just a way of affirming private feelings of loving attraction, then equality will require allowing people who love dogs to marry dogs, and people who love ice cream to marry ice cream."
Jon Stewart: "Yes, that's exactly right. You know, I realized now that that's not a bald head, that's a solar panel for a Dumb*** Machine. By the way, I just want to ask very quickly--Does you wife know that you can't see the difference between a consensual love that leads to matrimony and the enjoyment you get from a Dairy Queen Blizzard?"
lol....I love those questions.
"So if gays can get married, are we going to allow people to marry goats?"
"So if gays can get married, are we also going to allow grownups to marry 5 year olds?"
Seriously...what consenting adults do doesn't bother me, poligamy doesn't bother me....no one is talking about incest here.
First cousins can marry in NC, but gays can't marry? what's wrong with THAT picture?
Your first two "question" examples to answer my post don't compare to my original question. That's not two consenting adults in either example so you look desperate in your attempt to answer me.
No one is talking about incest but if they are consenting adults, you should be fighting for their rights. Would you favor allowing a brother and sister to marry?
Dr. Daniel Heimbach, (Southeastern Baptist Theological Seminary): "If marriage is radically redefined as being just a way of affirming private feelings of loving attraction, then equality will require allowing people who love dogs to marry dogs, and people who love ice cream to marry ice cream."
Jon Stewart: "Yes, that's exactly right. You know, I realized now that that's not a bald head, that's a solar panel for a Dumb*** Machine. By the way, I just want to ask very quickly--Does you wife know that you can't see the difference between a consensual love that leads to matrimony and the enjoyment you get from a Dairy Queen Blizzard?"
Just like so many who can't really give a good answer, Stewart skews the situation by making fun of the man and getting a bunch of big laughs. He looks like a hero to the pro-gay marriage side but if anything, just strengthens the sentiment of the opposition.
Real easy to crack on a man in a recorded video. That Stewart's a real quick-witted character.
Your first two "question" examples to answer my post don't compare to my original question. That's not two consenting adults in either example so you look desperate in your attempt to answer me.
Just discussing the topic, no desperation here, you aren't significant.
If the people voted and government is for "We the people" why is this being brought up in this manner? It seems this is to not let the issue go and try to stir up more emotions even though the very people in the state said that they wanted the amendment and voted for it.
If we are not going to at least follow the voting results then we are simply becoming a lawless nation.
There are plenty of issues that people will disagree on but when it is put to a vote with the people, that is the best way for the decision to be made. Remember "We the People"
...but when it is put to a vote with the people, that is the best way for the decision to be made.
That's called "mob rule" and is the absolute WORST way for broad decisions to be made.
The FF completely got this point and devised a rather good system of representative government
and even restricted which people could vote for those representatives.
Based on the ill informed comments and bigoted views voiced so frequently in this thread
I'm more and more inclined to see some of those more restrictive voting rules re-established.
Can you demonstrate that you have more qualification to vote than merely be breathing when you show up?
If the people voted and government is for "We the people" why is this being brought up in this manner? It seems this is to not let the issue go and try to stir up more emotions even though the very people in the state said that they wanted the amendment and voted for it.
If we are not going to at least follow the voting results then we are simply becoming a lawless nation.
There are plenty of issues that people will disagree on but when it is put to a vote with the people, that is the best way for the decision to be made. Remember "We the People"
The "people" voted based on religious views...you can't expect everyone to live by the beliefs of one group. It's not constitutional.
Anyway, saw this video today on my FB feed....it's the protest in Newton.
I love how mean the so called "Christians" are.
If the people voted and government is for "We the people" why is this being brought up in this manner? It seems this is to not let the issue go and try to stir up more emotions even though the very people in the state said that they wanted the amendment and voted for it.
If we are not going to at least follow the voting results then we are simply becoming a lawless nation.
There are plenty of issues that people will disagree on but when it is put to a vote with the people, that is the best way for the decision to be made. Remember "We the People"
There are some things, particularly dealing with the rights of minorities or those without a voice, that cannot be put to majority-rule vote because they would NEVER pass.
Do you think any Southern state would have abolished slavery it if had been put to a popular (white-only) vote?
Do you think women would have ever gained the right to vote if it had been put to (all-male) vote?
"Tyranny of the majority" is specifically warned against in early founding documents of this country.
It is not a "lawless nation" to use legislative and judicial means to protect minorities from tyranny of the maojrity--that is in fact the very reason our government is set up in a 3-pronged system. You might be happier in a place where everything is done strictly by majority rule--I just hope you don't ever find yourself on the minority side of anthing.
Just discussing the topic, no desperation here, you aren't significant.
Not to you.
But still waiting for a better answer to my earlier post. I guess we'll ignore it.
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