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Old 07-06-2012, 12:44 PM
 
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They ran on jobs, jobs, jobs.
And 2 years later no one is paying enough attention to recognize once in it was all about further destruction of the middle class, and gutting education and social programs.
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Old 07-06-2012, 12:52 PM
 
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Elections have consequences. The extremists cared enough to vote in 2010. They ruined NC's reputation as a relatively progressive, modern, well-educated state. Everyone should be fired up and ready to go in 2012. This is War.
It's not just the reputation, they have gutted education and restored the non-progressive views of the 60's.

As for fired up, ain't gonna happen in this country, too much apathy, too much selfish self centered mindset. We should have 90%+ turn out for the election, but will probably be 60%, if that. And that is counting only "registered" voters, there's another million or so that don't even bother to register.
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Old 07-06-2012, 08:13 PM
 
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It's not just the reputation, they have gutted education and restored the non-progressive views of the 60's.

As for fired up, ain't gonna happen in this country, too much apathy, too much selfish self centered mindset. We should have 90%+ turn out for the election, but will probably be 60%, if that. And that is counting only "registered" voters, there's another million or so that don't even bother to register.
The May 8th primaries proved that point.
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Old 07-06-2012, 08:26 PM
 
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The May 8th primaries proved that point.
Turnout was only down 2% this year from the 2008 primaries, which considering what was happening then, and compared to earlier primary states where something resembling an actual contest was in progress is actually quite amazing. In total numbers about 57,000 more people voted this year compared to the 2008 primaries. The outcome of one part of this year's primary can be chalked up to a number of things but apathy isn't one of them.
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Old 07-08-2012, 04:39 AM
 
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Elections have consequences. The extremists cared enough to vote in 2010. They ruined NC's reputation as a relatively progressive, modern, well-educated state. Everyone should be fired up and ready to go in 2012. This is War.
I'm so tired of you Moderator cut: inappropriate language calling anyone with a dissenting opinion a terrorist. First it was Bush era Republicans and now it's the MSNBC Democrats. Keep selling out and making enemies with your fellow man. It sure got the Germans far in the 1930's, I'm sure it'll take 'Merica a long way too.

By the way, in 2009 NC had the 8th worst public education system in the US. Jimmy Carter, Bush Sr, Clinton, Bush Jr., and Obama have all been the most "progressive"/liberal when it comes to public education. It clearly isn't working. It is also clear that conservative or "extremist" states have the strongest healthcare, employment and education figures right now. After/if Romney is elected and fails our country just as bad as Obama, you'll see all of that come crumbling down. Since conservative states will be trusting of Romney, they'll be open to his liberal policies as they were with Bush and he'll do what he was put in to do; destroy those systems.

It's been rinse and Moderator cut: inappropriate language repeat for 60 years now, folks. Pick up the pattern already. Most of you people are like a dog waiting on it's master. No matter how hard he beats you, you're still waiting at the door all Moderator cut: inappropriate language excited about how it might be different this time. If you keep that up, one day Michael Vick is gonna walk through that door and electrocute your excited ass in the tub.

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Old 07-08-2012, 01:06 PM
 
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Not agreeing or disagreeing with your post/topic, but this is probable the least reliable source you could have chosen for a discussion.
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Old 07-08-2012, 01:23 PM
 
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I'm disappointed with the GOP legislature in some areas (redistricting, the ultrasound abortion requirements, and blocking the eugenics bill) but they overcame decades of Democrat's obstruction on the charter school cap. They kept the budget in line, and reduced the excessive auto inspections. The money to complete 485 finally appeared after years of excuse making.

It's been my observation after many years of watching politics, that legislators, congresses, city councils and county commissions don't win re-election because they are loved in a Yay-Attboy manner. They eventually become out of touch with the people, so the electorate says "We're *sick* of you!" and tosses them out. It's really up to the legislature to overreach or insulate themselves from the public sufficently, to set the stage or an overthrow.
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Old 07-08-2012, 01:41 PM
 
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I'm disappointed with the GOP legislature in some areas (redistricting, the ultrasound abortion requirements, and blocking the eugenics bill) but they overcame decades of Democrat's obstruction on the charter school cap. They kept the budget in line, and reduced the excessive auto inspections. The money to complete 485 finally appeared after years of excuse making.

It's been my observation after many years of watching politics, that legislators, congresses, city councils and county commissions don't win re-election because they are loved in a Yay-Attboy manner. They eventually become out of touch with the people, so the electorate says "We're *sick* of you!" and tosses them out. It's really up to the legislature to overreach or insulate themselves from the public sufficently, to set the stage or an overthrow.
Completing 485 had zero to do with the legislature. Bev told NCDOT to find the money. NCDOT stripped money from projects in Cleveland County that had been promised for 10 - 15 years. They had to put one project back because it was written into an agreement with Clearwater Paper. Who knows where that money came from.

Where I live, people are irate that the jobs issue was ignored & school budgets were butchered.
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Old 07-08-2012, 04:51 PM
 
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Completing 485 had zero to do with the legislature. Bev told NCDOT to find the money. NCDOT stripped money from projects in Cleveland County that had been promised for 10 - 15 years. They had to put one project back because it was written into an agreement with Clearwater Paper. Who knows where that money came from.

Where I live, people are irate that the jobs issue was ignored & school budgets were butchered.
And the thing is there's about a 4% difference between the budget as passed and Perdue's proposed budget. $900 million isn't anything to sneeze at, but it highlights the fact there's a floor to keep the state running and they were already cutting at the margins. And even then such small difference causes major problems.
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Old 07-08-2012, 05:12 PM
 
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And the thing is there's about a 4% difference between the budget as passed and Perdue's proposed budget. $900 million isn't anything to sneeze at, but it highlights the fact there's a floor to keep the state running and they were already cutting at the margins. And even then such small difference causes major problems.
Our tea party legislature's 1st act was to submit a budget plugging the hole with the year's allowable funds from the Golden Leaf Fund. Bev vetoed it & told them that that money was for assisting distressed communities to get jobs in. Since the hole was caused by lack of jobs, it was counter productive & to figure out something else. That's when they declared war on schools to retaliate.

This makes it plain & clear that they do not care about jobs & they do not care about schools. They need to go.
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