Stop comparing Goldsboro to Kinston, its an insult (Fayetteville, Greenville: lofts, subdivisions)
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Wadesboro looks fairly ragtag to me. Empty storefronts, thrift shops, and cheap barbeque huts. I have thought before "This must be a depressing place to live" when driving through there.
74 all the way towards the coast is like that. anson, richmond, scotland, robeson. depressing
I have a very intimate relationship with Goldsboro/Wayne County having worked with their high schools for 3 years. The county is so connected I have a hard time thinking of Goldsboro separate from the county, often mistakenly referring to people from outside the city as being from Goldsboro or referring to myself as working specifically in Goldsboro instead of the county as a whole. The reason the city itself is losing population is because the population is moving to areas outside the city limits. There's not much room for the population to from within the city limits, it's pretty dense. Still everyone in the county uses the services and things of the cities. one of the reason why annexation is such a hot topic their. There are even quite a few people from neighboring communities in Princeton, La Grange, and Seven Springs who do their shopping in Goldsboro.
I was also shocked at how much industry is quietly in the area, from Mission Chips, to Mount Olive Pickles (not so quietly), to Case Farms, to Uchiyama, to AAR, and th elist goes on and on. That said you can drive around the city, especially along the tracks and see all the abandoned warehouses and how much more industry used to be in the city.
The biggest factor, I believe, against Goldsboro's growth is it's location and it's people. It's about an hour or less from everywhere. Raleigh, Wilson, Greenville. Add an extra 30 min for the beaches around Wilmington or Bogue Banks. The people of the area are perfectly content to make those drives. If you have a Best Buy in Wilson, Greenville, and Garner and people are already making the trip, why out one in Goldsboro. The city/county does a quietly good job of attracting industry to the area, but a poor one of attracting retail. Though I don't think they have a desire to. I think the population at large likes things the way they are. There's quite a lot of money in Wayne County, a lot of it is just not being spent in Wayne County. the only new businesses opening seem to be restaurants.
Due to it's proximity to the Raleigh, and literaly being at the very edge of the Triangle viewing area, in the far flung future I could see it being the edge of the Raleigh metro area. The "Fredricksburg" to Raleigh's "DC". I remember when Clayton looked like Goldsboro. It's filling up and you can see the transformation starting to happen in Smithfield. Goldsboro is next in line after that.
Clearly, Goldsboro has the ethnic feel of Wadesboro with the population of Monroe. Makes sense now? It wasn't an insult, it was just an honest observation on my part. Monroe (25% black; 30% Hispanic) is a totally different beast than Goldsboro (54% black; 4% Hispanic) when it comes to ethnic diversity. Goldsboro is more of a typical eastern NC white/black setup (you'll find this same setup in Wadesboro).
stats don't tell the reality. The official census may be 54% black, but you'd never think walking around because these only make up who has addresses within the city limits. Most of the peoel that are "in" Goldsboro, don't "live in" in Goldsboro. Add the fact that a big part of that black population rarely leaves the area they live. Even doing their shopping at the corner store, or the piggly wiggly that is literally in the middle of the neighborhood (I've seen people even walk home with the shopping cart with their groceries, and bring it back next time they go shopping.) Also 46% of Wayne County, I believe, is Ag land. What does that result in? A high undocumented population. That 4% is a gross lowball number in reference to the Hispanic population. It may even be the largest ethnic group in the county.
stats don't tell the reality. The official census may be 54% black, but you'd never think walking around because these only make up who has addresses within the city limits. Most of the peoel that are "in" Goldsboro, don't "live in" in Goldsboro. Add the fact that a big part of that black population rarely leaves the area they live. Even doing their shopping at the corner store, or the piggly wiggly that is literally in the middle of the neighborhood (I've seen people even walk home with the shopping cart with their groceries, and bring it back next time they go shopping.) Also 46% of Wayne County, I believe, is Ag land. What does that result in? A high undocumented population. That 4% is a gross lowball number in reference to the Hispanic population. It may even be the largest ethnic group in the county.
In Wayne county, the black population is 32% while the Hispanic population is 10%. The ever-popular undocumented argument is moot because just about every county in America can make that claim (especially New Mexico, Texas, and Arizona counties). Wayne County QuickFacts from the US Census Bureau
Just from the few visits I've made to the areas, Goldsboro and Kinston seems like NC's version of Sumter SC and Florence SC.
In Wayne county, the black population is 32% while the Hispanic population is 10%. The ever-popular undocumented argument is moot because just about every county in America can make that claim (especially New Mexico, Texas, and Arizona counties). Wayne County QuickFacts from the US Census Bureau
Just from the few visits I've made to the areas, Goldsboro and Kinston seems like NC's version of Sumter SC and Florence SC.
And that 32% is more felt walking around Goldsboro than the 54% or whatever it was. i wouldn't say the undocumented argument is mute, and it's not mute in New Mexico, Arizona, or Texas either. Or anywher when the reality and the official stats has such a huge gap, as those undocumented people are using resources that aren't being accounted for in federal, state, and even local budgets, but that's another discussion.
My point was just the Monroe/Wadesboro comparison based off stats was misleading and not accurate.
My point was just the Monroe/Wadesboro comparison based off stats was misleading and not accurate.
Let's refresh here for a minute. A Charlotte area poster (who has never even heard of Goldsboro and Kinston) had this to say:
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Originally Posted by Charlotte485
So what makes Goldsboro great? What is Goldsboro? I like the name, but what's it like?
My response to this was "Wadesboro with a slight splash of Monroe". I was simply trying to give this poster an area near Charlotte that he/she might be familiar with. I could have also said Statesville, Salisbury, or Shelby; but these areas don't seem to have the relatively high black population of Goldsboro/Wayne county. Wadesboro/Anson does though.
Anyways, here is one of the first videos that comes up when you do a search for "Goldsboro, NC" on youtube.
Lets be real here. Except for a couple of places like Greenville or New Bern, Most of Eastern NC is a poor crap hole.
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