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Old 03-16-2013, 10:47 PM
 
Location: Plano, TX
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Hi all,

As a toll road opponent here in TX, I have noticed that every state that currently has toll roads except for Texas, plans on the existing and planned toll routes to become free.

I just recently noticed that North Carolina's transportation department has established some toll routes with plans for more. Unlike here in TX, where it will take a new governor and new legislation to remove the tolls eventually, I am curious as to if the tolls will be removed from the routes in NC once the construction costs of each route are paid off.

I' am looking at maybe moving to NC someday, so I would hope that they would be by the time I retire (I am currently 28).
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Old 03-16-2013, 11:07 PM
 
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If there is a low traffic count on these roads, then it is possible they could be removed sometime in the future. However, I wouldn't hold your breath. For one, with a possible exception to I-95, only some select newer roads built will be toll roads (usually bypasses, loops, auxiliary routes, etc.). Secondly, I believe some of these toll roads will be outsourced to private companies, with some having contracts as high as 50 years (this might only apply to toll lanes, but I'm not entirely too sure; I've only heard this in regards to the HOT lanes on I-77).

In any case, I wouldn't worry about it. There's only one toll road in the entire state, and the other planned toll roads are still some ways off. And again, they will be newer roads. Roads that you won't be "required" to take, but they may make the commute quicker than the alternative.
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Old 03-17-2013, 12:27 AM
 
Location: The place where the road & the sky collide
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Hi all,

As a toll road opponent here in TX, I have noticed that every state that currently has toll roads except for Texas, plans on the existing and planned toll routes to become free.

I just recently noticed that North Carolina's transportation department has established some toll routes with plans for more. Unlike here in TX, where it will take a new governor and new legislation to remove the tolls eventually, I am curious as to if the tolls will be removed from the routes in NC once the construction costs of each route are paid off.

I' am looking at maybe moving to NC someday, so I would hope that they would be by the time I retire (I am currently 28).
ROFLMAO Have you told this to anyone in positions of authority in PA or NJ?

There is always an excuse to keep the tolls, in fact, the tolls regularly get raised.
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Old 03-17-2013, 12:47 AM
 
Location: Sanford, NC
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As more northeners move south to NC, this will probably become the norm since toll roads are a way of life up there.
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Old 03-17-2013, 11:52 AM
 
Location: The place where the road & the sky collide
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As more northeners move south to NC, this will probably become the norm since toll roads are a way of life up there.
What does that have to do with the price of tea in China? In 40 years of driving in South Jersey I took a toll road 4 times & each was because of a darned good reason.. Toll bridges are another thing, because you don't have a free option to them. Toll roads get people travelling through an area who don't know the free options.
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Old 03-20-2013, 04:06 PM
 
Location: Uptown
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There's a plan to turn the HOV lanes on 77 to toll lanes, but I haven't heard anything about turning entire rds into toll roads. With the lanes they can use electronic tolls only and save the cost of constructing and maintaining tollbooths.
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Old 03-20-2013, 04:16 PM
 
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Roads aren't free, nor cheap, nor is the maintenance.
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Old 03-21-2013, 08:50 AM
 
Location: Salisbury,NC
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Tolls will never go away as it is a revenue source that politicians just love to have.

1964 V-N bridge opens connecting SI to Brooklyn toll only to be charged till bridge paid for,about 30 years, Roundtrip toll today $13

Tolls never go away
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Old 03-21-2013, 08:54 AM
 
Location: Charlotte, NC
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There's not a chance in heII that the state would voluntarily remove revenue generating devices. Typically, from prior experience, someone would have to successfully sue to have them removed if they've exceeded the lifespan/amount earned, that were supposed to lead to them being removed.
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Old 03-23-2013, 06:14 PM
 
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Southbound and boss hit it right on the head.......
TOLLS NEVER GO AWAY. It's just too easy a revenue source!

NJ and Penn Turnpikes, NY Thruway, etc. all toll roads that were designed to go away once the build cost was recouped. HAHAHA!!!!!!!!
I guess you could argue the build cost never goes away because of the constant upgrades and repaving.
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