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Old 03-20-2013, 06:53 AM
 
Location: Raleigh, NC
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Under the proposal filed Tuesday by Phil Berger, R-Rockingham, certain job protections for veteran public school teachers would end in the fall 2014 school year. First, local school boards by the end of 2013 can offer four-year contracts to teachers with at least three years' experience. For the next school year, veteran teachers would be offered salaries from one to four years.

Teachers with less than three years' experience in one district would still be limited to one-year deals. Local boards also could decline to renew contracts.

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Good idea? Couldn't this run good teachers from the state to other states?
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Old 03-20-2013, 07:25 AM
 
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One more reason for no one to become a teacher.
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Old 03-20-2013, 07:52 AM
 
Location: under the beautiful Carolina blue
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One more reason for no one to become a teacher.
Seriously. I'm not a huge fan of the tenure concept, but let's just take away any possible benefit to the profession, shall we???
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Old 03-20-2013, 07:59 AM
 
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I agree not a big fan of tenure system but this doesn't seem like a wise move to attract talented professionals when NC already ranks 46th in teacher payI
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Old 03-20-2013, 08:18 AM
 
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I generally don't support most of the Republican agenda, but I have to admit I'm puzzled by the concept of tenure in K-12 education. There's no question that teaching in NC sucks as a profession, and I guess this shift would make it suck even more for the teachers.
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Old 03-20-2013, 08:58 AM
 
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Under the proposal filed Tuesday by Phil Berger, R-Rockingham, certain job protections for veteran public school teachers would end in the fall 2014 school year. First, local school boards by the end of 2013 can offer four-year contracts to teachers with at least three years' experience. For the next school year, veteran teachers would be offered salaries from one to four years.

Teachers with less than three years' experience in one district would still be limited to one-year deals. Local boards also could decline to renew contracts.

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Good idea? Couldn't this run good teachers from the state to other states?
It's a horrible idea, and will not improve teacher morale whatsoever. These baffoons are out of touch. If you want to treat teaching like a regular profession, then pay them competitive industry salaries..base of 50k through 100k, especially teachers with master degress. It's an attempt to dismantle the public schools system and shift money to charter or other types of schools. Veteran teachers have already overcome the battle....

It's a royal waste of time and new layer of hassle coupled with all the other teacher duties...some people are extremely out of touch.
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Old 03-20-2013, 09:30 AM
 
Location: Charlotte, NC
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Well, this will certainly help create more jobs that the Republicans keep insisting is their number 1 priority until they actually get elected.
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Old 03-20-2013, 09:34 AM
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I am on my third career, teaching math and science to middl schoolers. I was called to do this, certainly not a rational, in the economic sense, decision.

I suppose I now have tenure. It has never come up.

In regards to career, I would work very hard to DISCOURAGE any young person from teaching. It is a terrible career, for a million reasons.
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Old 03-20-2013, 10:44 AM
 
Location: Blue Ridge Mtns of NC
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Do all state public service employees receive tenure after a period of time?
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Old 03-20-2013, 11:04 AM
 
Location: The place where the road & the sky collide
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Do all state public service employees receive tenure after a period of time?
No, but look at it this way. Teachers are required to take specialized classes that are not easily transferable to other industries, & to be licensed. Is it possible to remove a tenured teacher? Yes, but they have to show grounds. Prior to tenure, a teacher can & should be removed if he or she is not competent.

If you think that it's a good idea to remove tenure, it will have one of two results. Either the teachers will band together & fight it in court or they will unionize & that will end up in court, & the state will lose & it will open up all state employees to unionizing.

How do I know that state laws & practices about unionizing will be struck down? It happened in Maryland about 20 years ago.
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