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Old 06-13-2009, 11:50 PM
 
Location: Five Points
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How do you explain hate crimes in California or New York? The reality is that the cultural and political spectrum exists across this country in the behavior of its citizens and local politics. That doesn't mean that there won't be examples as you state above.

The article is clear in how the policies and direction set years ago migrated NC away from the political center of the South over time. And, of course, that center was decidedly to the right of the center of the US. Regarding Jesse Helms, it was easy to see how his power and influenced waned over time. In his last re-election, he barely beat a Black Architect from Charlotte. Now, let's consider that election in parts. First of all, how well do politicians from Charlotte historically do in statewide elections?...not too well by my recollection. Now, consider that he was Black and how that juxtaposes with Jesse's history. Now, consider that he was an architect. That's not the usual path for politics. The writing was on the wall then and Jesse knew it. I think that's why he retired when he did. He knew it was over for him. Otherwise, he would have been there until the day he died.

The policies put in place 50 years ago have grown our cities with NC's own college graduates (instead of losing them to other states as was the case in the first half of the century) and transplants. I remember when NC tipped from being a majority rural state to being a majority urban state. That was not so long ago.

End state is that we are where we are today because NC's statePOLITICS set the course. Its leaders were ahead of the culture of the state but they did in fact lead NC into the future over time. They were visionaries and brilliant in my opinion. NC certainly has examples of bigotry and racism as do almost all other states in the union. But, in the same state with examples you stated in your post above, its citizens kept the Democrats in control of it.

Oh, I think it's interesting that your examples seem to paint a picture of conservatism being equated with bigotry and prejudice. It's a shame that that has to be the collateral for identifying conservatism. Unless that changes in this country, there won't be any more conservatives in the future. Although I am not conservative politically, I see the value that consevative voice brings to the table when you find a way to ignore all the bigotry noise that surrounds them. The unfortunate part is that I can't seem to ignore it....it's just too loud at the moment.
You are so wrong that it is laughable.Your claim that Jesse's power was shrinking is absurd. You are like so many libs that if you think and say it, than it is true. Just some facts for you. Jesse won 51.7% of the vote in 1984,52.5 in 1990, and 54.5 in 1996. So you are dead wrong. Jesse was MORE popular in 1996 than he was in 1972 or 1990. Where did you you dig up up your wrong facts? They are so wrong. I will debate you on any NC political topic that you so choose. And win.
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Old 06-14-2009, 09:48 AM
 
Location: Five Points
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You are so wrong that it is laughable.Your claim that Jesse's power was shrinking is absurd. You are like so many libs that if you think and say it, than it is true. Just some facts for you. Jesse won 51.7% of the vote in 1984,52.5 in 1990, and 54.5 in 1996. So you are dead wrong. Jesse was MORE popular in 1996 than he was in 1972 or 1990. Where did you you dig up up your wrong facts? They are so wrong. I will debate you on any NC political topic that you so choose. And win.
I was incorrect about the 1996 election. The Great Senator Helms got 52.6 percent of the vote. Still more than 1990 and 1984. He also beat Gant again that year. Gant was not just some black archetect as you call him. He was a very accomplished and popular multi term mayor of Charlotte. Also you again prove your lack of political knowledge when you state that Jesse did not run in 2002 becausae he would lose. He was in extremely failing health at that time and Mrs Helms did not want him to run. You are wrong again on that one.
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Old 06-14-2009, 11:06 AM
 
Location: Lake Norman, NC
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The premise that many licensed drivers in this state still firmly believe that it must cost money to use turn signals when they drive and we are in tough economic times. I was taken aback Friday evening coming home from work when an Iredell deputy made a right turn off a 45mph, two lane road without a turn signal. Holy heck!
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Old 06-15-2009, 04:05 PM
 
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Just curious, what do NC residents think is the #1 negative of living in their beautiful state? I'd love to hear some opinions!
NC Dot. Hands down!!!
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Old 06-16-2009, 12:53 PM
 
Location: South Beach and DT Raleigh
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I was incorrect about the 1996 election. The Great Senator Helms got 52.6 percent of the vote. Still more than 1990 and 1984. He also beat Gant again that year. Gant was not just some black archetect as you call him. He was a very accomplished and popular multi term mayor of Charlotte. Also you again prove your lack of political knowledge when you state that Jesse did not run in 2002 becausae he would lose. He was in extremely failing health at that time and Mrs Helms did not want him to run. You are wrong again on that one.
I did not refer to him as "just some black architect". Don't put words in my mouth. I don't appreciate it.
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Old 06-16-2009, 12:58 PM
 
Location: South Beach and DT Raleigh
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I was incorrect about the 1996 election. The Great Senator Helms got 52.6 percent of the vote. Still more than 1990 and 1984. He also beat Gant again that year. Gant was not just some black archetect as you call him. He was a very accomplished and popular multi term mayor of Charlotte. Also you again prove your lack of political knowledge when you state that Jesse did not run in 2002 becausae he would lose. He was in extremely failing health at that time and Mrs Helms did not want him to run. You are wrong again on that one.
You were also wrong when you refered to him as "The Great Senator Helms". He was a hateful, prejudiced, devisive politician who preyed on and lived off of manipulating fear and the very worst in people for his own political gain.
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Old 06-17-2009, 02:18 PM
 
Location: Five Points
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You were also wrong when you refered to him as "The Great Senator Helms". He was a hateful, prejudiced, devisive politician who preyed on and lived off of manipulating fear and the very worst in people for his own political gain.
Jesse was a great Senator and and even better person. He was always ranked first in constituency service. You sound full of hate towards Senator Helms. Get over it. The good people of North Carolina elected Jesse the Great five times. ENOUGH SAID.
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Old 06-17-2009, 07:57 PM
 
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Default Moderator Note:

Folks you are hijacking the thread with political discussions. Please start a new thread for that topic. Thanks.
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Old 06-21-2009, 03:50 AM
 
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Erratic weather patterns.

Freezing cold one moment, and then blazing heat the next. At least I like cooler temperatures so I wouldn't mind some snow...oh wait, this is North Carolina we're talking about...nevermind. We don't get snow.
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Old 06-21-2009, 01:59 PM
 
Location: The Queen City
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NC Dot. Hands down!!!
The what?
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