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Old 08-19-2013, 07:49 PM
 
Location: The place where the road & the sky collide
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I understand but, there's really more to it than that. Perhaps I just have a bit more insight from where I stand.
Local officials don't mind relinquishing 45 acres to get a massive number of badly needed jobs. One of the officials from the GA is quoted as saying "I don't like casinos."

I've told you that there is a thread with relevant links.

 
Old 08-19-2013, 08:15 PM
 
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Local officials don't mind relinquishing 45 acres to get a massive number of badly needed jobs. One of the officials from the GA is quoted as saying "I don't like casinos."

I've told you that there is a thread with relevant links.
I've seen the thread and I am telling you...there's more to it than that. Issuing regulations, investigating illegal gaming operations, taking enforcement actions, etc. These are issues that could be outside of federal control on Indian land. That's why some are opposed to it. Just saying.
 
Old 08-20-2013, 05:03 AM
 
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I've seen the thread and I am telling you...there's more to it than that. Issuing regulations, investigating illegal gaming operations, taking enforcement actions, etc. These are issues that could be outside of federal control on Indian land. That's why some are opposed to it. Just saying.
horse hockey. if you don't believe the GA is opposed on moral grounds then you haven't been paying as much attention as you'd lead us to believe.
 
Old 08-20-2013, 05:17 AM
 
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and cleveland mike, maybe i do not have as much factual information as you claim to, please enlighten me... all i know so far about why detroit went bankrupt is that the left is to blame for nc being in a hole... you told me the left is to blame for nc, and that i need factual information, even though i don't remember asking you, until now, to provide some factual information yourself, if the auto industry is not to blame for detroit, what is to blame, and why would somebody who knows the answer, and has a screen name but not really any real connection to anybody here, unless some of you guys know him... not just offer factual information on why detroit went bankrupt, i mean the real deal story, not my fictional story about auto industry and city government corruption, even though the source is usually pretty reliable, and the auto thing, well no source necessary i think it's obvious why unless it was something else, that anybody would think auto industry immediately
Stop complaining stop story telling stop looking for handouts and do something productive other than bash successful Americans. You have the same opportunities as everyone else, but it seems like you want instant success to be handed to you for free. Hope that enlightens you. NC has be in a decline or moving backward because monies are not easily available. Yes here is a news headline for money is needed for programs and we don't have any extra cash. We have a huge debt that is a burden on all of us and if we do not reverse direction of economic growth we will go bankrupt. Now, if you want facts on why cities went bankrupt and how programs get funding and how to manage finances you have an advantage over previous generations .... You can Google.
 
Old 08-20-2013, 06:14 AM
 
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I've seen the thread and I am telling you...there's more to it than that. Issuing regulations, investigating illegal gaming operations, taking enforcement actions, etc. These are issues that could be outside of federal control on Indian land. That's why some are opposed to it. Just saying.
I'm neither stupid nor naive about casinos. I voted to allow them in Atlantic City. I knew the pros & cons. I went once in all of those years. I also don't regret the vote because they provided a massive number of jobs that were badly needed.

The Indians could be running numbers on their land without the casino. To use that as an excuse is hogwash. The Republicans have run on jobs, jobs, jobs for 2 cycles. Their record is in negative numbers. Now they want to kill a potential source of jobs because they don't like casinos, just like they don't like gay people.
 
Old 08-20-2013, 06:31 AM
 
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I'm neither stupid nor naive about casinos. I voted to allow them in Atlantic City. I knew the pros & cons. I went once in all of those years. I also don't regret the vote because they provided a massive number of jobs that were badly needed.

The Indians could be running numbers on their land without the casino. To use that as an excuse is hogwash. The Republicans have run on jobs, jobs, jobs for 2 cycles. Their record is in negative numbers. Now they want to kill a potential source of jobs because they don't like casinos, just like they don't like gay people.
Again, I said "some...not "all". By the way, I'm not against the casino's. You're so busy arguing my point you can't see that.

You need the decline to so badly be about vendetta against other people. Here's something simple for you....

"Mommy didn't tell you that you couldn't have the candy because you are BAD...it's because we can't afford it. If you are going to stomp your foot, then go stand in the corner".
 
Old 08-20-2013, 07:12 AM
 
Location: Union County
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Mixing in macro and national discussions here just muddies the waters and distracts. You may not like what the Fed is doing (I don't), but it's simply a matter of being "less worse" than the other countries. It's globalization and central banks. Keynesian theory is way over your head and admit you're spewing quotes and comments you read elsewhere about "fiscal policy". Don't pretend you really understand how it works... I especially love when you follow it up with birther comments - right out of breitbart or redstate. Shows your true colors.

A state can't declare bankruptcy... If you want to bring in bankruptcy related to cities or counties, that's fine. But don't pretend it's really relevant to a state wide discussion beyond trying to make an "oooooooohhhhhhh" drama statement. How about address why these cities and counties are going bankrupt - it's not "programs" - it's not "services" - it's long term debt obligations... i.e. pensions, bonds, etc. Cutting services and programs for those municipalities would be like canceling your netflix account when your mortgage is more than your income... that's the kind of thinking you're calling smart. Real smart.

I'm sick and tired of special interests running everything and inane talking points about "takers" and "makers". Nobody thinks for themselves - proven that if you think for 1 second that everyone has equal opportunity in this country than your head is buried firmly in the sand. Social mobility is gone. Our "representatives" vote the way their handlers tell them... and frankly, I don't know if that's the worst of it. When I see and hear people blast away at others for "wanting instant success" and "handouts", it's even sadder... because they spew this vile hatred for those on social programs. They think they're better than those on unemployment and using food stamps - they think they're in some higher position or something because they pay taxes that fund those programs and "that's what's wrong with this country"... all as pawns to the rich finance guys getting richer and laughing at the fools beating the drum for them. Sad.
 
Old 08-20-2013, 07:12 AM
 
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[quote=Native_Son;31042315]Anyone who chastises a poster for being "thick" and then endorses a Cleveland mike post loses all credibility, lol

You are correct....I will not join the left wing group, I am not a follower. I cant stand complainers and those wanting to be a victim. My thought process is very simple, stop complaining, get off city-data and go make yourself productive. When you have free time away from your productivity and contributions to society, come back on city-data and share your successes. NC Needs people like this to turn its direction.

Free loaders and victims of all types of made up crap, have been destroying our great state.

I have to leave for work now so that my tax dollars can be shared to those who can't find
their way home.

How's that for creditability?
 
Old 08-20-2013, 07:16 AM
 
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Again, I said "some...not "all". By the way, I'm not against the casino's. You're so busy arguing my point you can't see that.

You need the decline to so badly be about vendetta against other people. Here's something simple for you....

"Mommy didn't tell you that you couldn't have the candy because you are BAD...it's because we can't afford it. If you are going to stomp your foot, then go stand in the corner".
Talking down to people is not a winning argument.

Putting a few thousand people back to work means more income tax to pay off the state's debt. 30 or 40 million a year goes a long way to turning things around.
 
Old 08-20-2013, 10:31 AM
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My thought process is very simple
Nuff said, I guess.
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