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Old 10-08-2013, 09:03 AM
 
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1. Decision not to expand Medicaid makes healthcare more expensive right now.
2. Airport is one example of many.. Including, but not limited to annexation rules, limit of local powers by State Law
3. "If overburdensome"? Funny thing about pollution law... It's always overburdensome to the company that has to pay and always too lenient for the family of a dying cancer patient. Laws get more stringent over time with good reason. I won't go into excruciating detail here, but you don't even feel
A desire to KNOW what regs are being dialed back? That doesn't concern you?
4. How trite. I find your comment disingenuous at best regarding women's care...
5. Yay guns?!? Boo AMENDMENT to disallow civil unions. One vastly outweighs the other.
6. Developers are big winners in NC. So are gas & oil companies. Those would the beneficiaries of the examples in my mind.
7. Horse hockey. I ain't talking about ID or registration cards.
8. Do yourself a favor... Learn the facts about the education budget BEFORE you try to defend it. Brad, you're skipping along the surface here. Not many of your defenses would withstand the shallowest of inspection.
1. Where was the money going to come from for the Medicaid expansion?
2. I guess we will see.
3. There is a difference between punishing polluters and creating regulations that don't allow anything anywhere. There needs to be a balance.
4. What types of health care are no longer allowed for women in NC? If a facility does not have the ability to keep equipment maintained without the use of tape, or doesn't have sterilization procedures then perhaps they can ask ProgressNC for some funds to upgrade.
5. This was law well before the current GA session.
6. Fair enough, I guess we will see. To be fair developers are always in pretty good with politicians regardless of party.
7. A nearly $400 million increase in spending compared to last year is pretty good I think. Another $10 million or so for raises is also good, as well as the $25 million or so for community colleges. NCPolicyWatch played some inflation games to manipulate the numbers into a decrease compared to 2008 which gives a false impression of monies allocated.
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Old 10-10-2013, 02:56 PM
 
Location: From the Middle East of the USA
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Progress is not bad. Following Progressive policies to end up like Detroit is. Progressing to the point where government controls all aspect of your life and "knows what is best" is also not acceptable. Wanting to prevent a political party from ever existing (the endgame for Progress NC vs. the GOP) is not very Progressive either.
Netbrad, please explain... what would life in America look like if the government controlled your life? Can you explain what type of the agenda some would have in Washington?
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Old 10-13-2013, 12:19 PM
 
Location: Over the rainbow
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Lowering taxes isn't so bad. But when it's the "finishing move" to other policy moves like making healthcare more expensive, cutting unemployment to the bone, clipping local government at the knees, rolling back environmental regs (down to the local level), limiting healthcare for women, limiting the civil rights of citizens, subsidizing big business interests on the backs of the citizens, limiting the ability of the populace to vote, and passing the worst budget for education in umpteen years, then it's really just a slap in the face to a lot of people.
And don't forget one of my favorites: House Joint Resolution 494, an attempt to legislate a state religion - (it was tabled); or Indecent Exposure (can't show any portion of the female breast); Building Standards (towns could no longer withhold building permits because of types of materials used... (I think this benefits capitalism, not safety)); Couples have to wait 2 yrs for divorce and take courses on communication skills and conflict resolution (so much for staying out of our bedrooms).
I see both parties telling the people how to best live their lives - in very specific details.... Basically, the more extreme they get, the more they sound alike.
To quote Gov Bobby Jindal (LA-R), following the November 2012 elections:
"We’ve also had enough of thisdumbed-down conservatism. We need to stop being simplistic, we need to trustthe intelligence of the American people and we need to stop insulting theintelligence of the voters.”
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Old 10-14-2013, 08:47 AM
 
Location: Raleigh, NC
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-If you are referring to Amendment One that is not from this session and gay marriage has always been illegal in NC.
Which is exactly why it was overreaching to amend the very Constitution to ban it, in addition to any sort of civil union (including heterosexual ones) or other "domestic legal contract" which could be interpreted by a conservative judge someday as overturning wills or Powers of Attorney.

Amendments to Constitutions have typically expanded the rights of individuals, the one exception being Prohibition--which was later overturned. And while it technically was not this session, it's the same players in the GA and their same backroom tactics that passed the bill for A1 as have caused all of these other issues. And the "GOP" still claims to be the party of "less government intrusion", haw.
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Old 10-14-2013, 07:51 PM
 
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1. Where was the money going to come from for the Medicaid expansion?
From the Federal government. And the Feds were going to get the money from funds that they used to pay directly to hospitals and health clinics to offset their losses from treating the under and uninsured. Now, there will be a segment of people in NC are have too much money for Medicaid, but not enough to buy money through the exchanges. They will continue to go without insurance, and hospitals will still have the obligation to provide care through the ER, but the hospitals will no longer receive federal reimbursement for that care.
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Old 10-15-2013, 09:02 PM
 
Location: Over the rainbow
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Progress is not bad. Following Progressive policies to end up like Detroit is. Progressing to the point where government controls all aspect of your life and "knows what is best" is also not acceptable. Wanting to prevent a political party from ever existing (the endgame for Progress NC vs. the GOP) is not very Progressive either.
The one great thing about this country - until we lost the ability to compromise for the greater good - is/was our ability to adapt and change.
Historically, we've had the Federalist Party, and Democratic-Republican Party (which were the anti-Federalists). Remember the Whigs (1830s-1850s)? The Republican Party did not come into existence until A. Lincoln (1860). We also have the Libertarians and Green... So, yes, political parties come and go - and used to evolve. (Historical corrections accepted.)
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Old 10-16-2013, 12:37 AM
 
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Progress is not bad. Following Progressive policies to end up like Detroit is. Progressing to the point where government controls all aspect of your life and "knows what is best" is also not acceptable. Wanting to prevent a political party from ever existing (the endgame for Progress NC vs. the GOP) is not very Progressive either.
Or you could end up like NYC. Or Boston. Or DC.
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Old 10-26-2013, 06:24 PM
 
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Progress is not bad. Following Progressive policies to end up like Detroit is. Progressing to the point where government controls all aspect of your life and "knows what is best" is also not acceptable. Wanting to prevent a political party from ever existing (the endgame for Progress NC vs. the GOP) is not very Progressive either.

Was it progressive policies or the combination of wanton corruption mixed with the shipping of the auto jobs overseas?
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Old 10-26-2013, 11:07 PM
 
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Was it progressive policies or the combination of wanton corruption mixed with the shipping of the auto jobs overseas?
And urban riots, which caused white/middle-class flight of epic proportions. And the lack of mass transit. And the lack of a knowledge-based economy.
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