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Old 12-11-2013, 08:37 AM
 
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Breaking News: The North Carolina Association of Educators has filed a lawsuit in Wake County Superior Court challenging the Opportunity Scholarship Act, which allows students to use state money to attend private schools. The advocacy group wants the court to declare the program unconstitutional and stop the state from issuing the vouchers.--WRAL


All about choice, unless it is about having a choice of education for low income students.
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Old 12-11-2013, 11:33 AM
 
Location: Salisbury,NC
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It Takes money out of the public schools. Your tax dollars should be going to public schools not private. The idea is to improve the system not bleed it til it dies.
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Old 12-11-2013, 11:40 AM
 
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Judging by the thread title, our schools definitely need to be improved.
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Old 12-11-2013, 11:51 AM
 
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Judging by the thread title, our schools definitely need to be improved.
Yeah I just copied the title quickly out of the first sentence, but I see your point.
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Old 12-11-2013, 12:06 PM
 
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It Takes money out of the public schools. Your tax dollars should be going to public schools not private. The idea is to improve the system not bleed it til it dies.
I want to improve the kids not the system. Let the individual decide what is better.

How does this hurt the public school? In theory if it takes $4300 to educate a child per year, then you take the child and the money from the public school, who does that hurt? If anything it may relieve some overcrowding issues.

The funny thing here is this is targeting low income kids only, yet the rich white republican GA will get little recognition in these efforts. Their marketing stinks.

So what the teachers really want when you boil it down is, to trap low income students in a system where the teachers are not paid by performance, canít be fired, and get an automatic raise every year.
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Old 12-11-2013, 04:40 PM
 
Location: Salisbury,NC
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I want to improve the kids not the system. Let the individual decide what is better.

How does this hurt the public school? In theory if it takes $4300 to educate a child per year, then you take the child and the money from the public school, who does that hurt? If anything it may relieve some overcrowding issues.

The funny thing here is this is targeting low income kids only, yet the rich white republican GA will get little recognition in these efforts. Their marketing stinks.

So what the teachers really want when you boil it down is, to trap low income students in a system where the teachers are not paid by performance, canít be fired, and get an automatic raise every year.
Sounds like Art Pope's people are at it again.
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Old 12-11-2013, 05:15 PM
 
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It Takes money out of the public schools. Your tax dollars should be going to public schools not private. The idea is to improve the system not bleed it til it dies.
IMO the idea is to educate the children not perpetuate a particular system
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Old 12-11-2013, 05:25 PM
 
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I want to improve the kids not the system. Let the individual decide what is better.

How does this hurt the public school? In theory if it takes $4300 to educate a child per year, then you take the child and the money from the public school, who does that hurt? If anything it may relieve some overcrowding issues.

The funny thing here is this is targeting low income kids only, yet the rich white republican GA will get little recognition in these efforts. Their marketing stinks.

So what the teachers really want when you boil it down is, to trap low income students in a system where the teachers are not paid by performance, canít be fired, and get an automatic raise every year.

The $4,300 won't cover the entire costs needed to attend a private school. There are registration fees, application fees, reenrollment fee, plus the cost of uniforms for some of the schools. From what I am seeing, Wake Co. private schools cost between 5.5k and 19k, pending on the programs and add-ons. I understand that many of the schools (heck, maybe all of them!) have tuition assistance and that could help with the voucher, but still won't likely be enough. Transportation would likely be an issue as well, without the free school bus rides.

I don't want my taxes going to support private schools.
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Old 12-11-2013, 05:38 PM
 
Location: The Triad (NC)
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I want to improve the kids not the system. Let the individual decide what is better.
And you are welcome to do that with your own money.

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In theory if it takes $4300 to educate a child per year...
It takes an involved community to educate a child.

Allowing the most motivated families with the best performing kids out is bad enough...
giving them the cash to go with them is nearly criminal.
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Old 12-12-2013, 07:14 AM
 
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It takes an involved community to educate a child.

And when the community is failing the child what then? Trapping kids in a failing school is not the answer. Would your rather your tax money continue to go to a failing school and condem a child to a life of poverty and hopelessness or allow them an opportunity to succeed?
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