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Old 08-18-2014, 08:47 PM
 
Location: Roanoke VA
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Aug 18, 2014

BREAKING NEWS

VA'S Attorney General, Mark Herring has just asked the U.S. Supreme Court to delay VA same sex marriage until all appeals can be heard by the Court. The Supreme Court can grant VAs request or it can now just allow VA to start issuing marriage licenses
By not responding to the request. Mark Herring is a strong advocate for marriage equality and he wants to resolve this issue. It is expected the Supreme Court will eventually rule on same sex marriage nationwide. I believe NC is tied into the VA case. I am not sure when same sex marriage will begin in NC. It seems sooner than later.
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Old 08-19-2014, 10:51 AM
 
Location: Ayrsley
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I never said I disliked gays, I just don't agree with their lifestyle.
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Sally Kohn, National Gay and Lesbian Task Force and OUT magazine are hardly radical. They are mainstream leaders/publications for the LGBT movement.
For someone who has no interest in the "gay lafestyle", you sure do seem to do a lot of research on it.
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Old 08-19-2014, 11:26 AM
 
Location: Durham, NC
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I have yet to see anyone in the LGBT community disown their statements. Sally Kohn, National Gay and Lesbian Task Force and OUT magazine are hardly radical. They are mainstream leaders/publications for the LGBT movement.
Most of those statements are reasonable. If we're going to have marriage, it should be egalitarian. But ultimately as a society we should recognize that marriage just isn't for everyone, or even most of us. That's not radical, and many straight people feel the same way. Most marriages end in divorce, many that don't are still miserable arrangements kept out of convenience and social pressure. People should be encouraged to have kids in a stable environment, but marriage is not the only suitable environment.
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Old 08-21-2014, 12:27 PM
 
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Most marriages end in divorce, many that don't are still miserable arrangements kept out of convenience and social pressure. People should be encouraged to have kids in a stable environment, but marriage is not the only suitable environment.
Data source please on "most marriages end in divorce".
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Old 08-21-2014, 06:09 PM
 
Location: Roanoke VA
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I recently saw a stand up comedian who said he thought Straight Married Couples really don't care whether Gay people marry, its just that they care so much for their Gay brothers and sisters they don't want them to make the same mistake they made in getting married!!
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Old 08-21-2014, 06:11 PM
 
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Data source please on "most marriages end in divorce".
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...the overall probability of marriages now ending in divorce falls between 40 percent and 50 percent.
http://www.politifact.com/new-jersey...marriages-end/
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Old 08-22-2014, 06:57 AM
 
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Nothing in your posted article about "most marriages end in divorce". Even with the loosest definition of
"most" it would have to be at least 51%. The article even ends with "We rate the statement False." (in relation to the 67% figure).

The trouble is many of the studies people toss out with 50% of marriages end in divorce are factoring in people who remarry 2,3 or more times. This CDC study shows that divorce rates for first time married people are declining. http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nhsr/nhsr049.pdf
For woman the divorce rate was 44% in 1982 and dropped to 36% in the 2006-2010 period of the study.
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Old 08-22-2014, 11:14 AM
 
Location: Raleigh, NC
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Nothing in your posted article about "most marriages end in divorce". Even with the loosest definition of
"most" it would have to be at least 51%. The article even ends with "We rate the statement False." (in relation to the 67% figure).

The trouble is many of the studies people toss out with 50% of marriages end in divorce are factoring in people who remarry 2,3 or more times. This CDC study shows that divorce rates for first time married people are declining. http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nhsr/nhsr049.pdf
For woman the divorce rate was 44% in 1982 and dropped to 36% in the 2006-2010 period of the study.
The real question is, what does that have to do with the legality of same-sex marriages?
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Old 08-22-2014, 08:47 PM
 
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The real question is, what does that have to do with the legality of same-sex marriages?
I was asking for data on the comment about most marriages ending in divorce. I wasn't sure where they were trying to go with that argument.
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Old 08-23-2014, 11:54 AM
 
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Nothing in your posted article about "most marriages end in divorce". Even with the loosest definition of
"most" it would have to be at least 51%. The article even ends with "We rate the statement False." (in relation to the 67% figure).

The trouble is many of the studies people toss out with 50% of marriages end in divorce are factoring in people who remarry 2,3 or more times. This CDC study shows that divorce rates for first time married people are declining. http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nhsr/nhsr049.pdf
For woman the divorce rate was 44% in 1982 and dropped to 36% in the 2006-2010 period of the study.
Now did I quote the 67% number? No I didn't. I used that article to quote "...the overall probability of marriages now ending in divorce falls between 40 percent and 50 percent." Which is almost half.
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