Raliegh-Durham-Chapel Hill vs. Winston Salem-Greensboro-High Point (Charlotte, Raleigh: airport, arena, suburb)

[urbancharlotte]

Originally Posted by metro.m

I concur. We should appreciate the fact we have so many cities close together (so many options), unlike many other states in the US. NC is a very underrated state IMO.

Two of the Nation's 3 fastest growing metros are in North Carolina.

#1 Raleigh
#2 Austin
#3 Charlotte

Is this your idea of being "underrated"?

[Akhenaton06]

NC and underrated don't belong in the same sentence these days.

I do consider Raleigh to be in a half-tier above Greensboro, hovering between it and Charlotte's tier.

[rnc2mbfl]

Originally Posted by john879

Greensboro i by far the best, way over half the population is liberal, and keep in mind, the stats show that at the pace that greensboro and raleigh are growing, greensboro will soon be bigger than raleigh. right now, raleigh is a tiny bit bigger than greensboro.

Greensboro used to be bigger than Raleigh when my family moved to NC in the early 70's. Since then, Raleigh's growth has blown past Greensboro. I am sorry but you have this completely backward. Greensboro will not soon be bigger than Raleigh and it's not growing faster than Raleigh

Some recent numbers from Wikipedia:
Raleigh: 385,507 up almost 110,000 since the 2000 census
Greensboro: 258,671 up almost 35,000 since the 2000 census

The numbers are even more drastic when counties are compared:
Wake: 866,410 (2008)
Guilford: 465,931 (2007)

[DanielleNC]

Originally Posted by john879

Greensboro i by far the best, way over half the population is liberal, and keep in mind, the stats show that at the pace that greensboro and raleigh are growing, greensboro will soon be bigger than raleigh. right now, raleigh is a tiny bit bigger than greensboro.

Originally Posted by rnc2mbfl

Greensboro used to be bigger than Raleigh when my family moved to NC in the early 70's. Since then, Raleigh's growth has blown past Greensboro. I am sorry but you have this completely backward. Greensboro will not soon be bigger than Raleigh and it's not growing faster than Raleigh

Some recent numbers from Wikipedia:
Raleigh: 385,507 up almost 110,000 since the 2000 census
Greensboro: 258,671 up almost 35,000 since the 2000 census

The numbers are even more drastic when counties are compared:
Wake: 866,410 (2008)
Guilford: 465,931 (2007)

I think he what he really meant is that Greensboro is barely bigger than Durham.

Wikipedia:
Durham City: 217,847 (2007)
Durham County: 479,624 (2007)

[arbyunc]

You folks are throwing these numbers around as if bigger is better.

[urbancharlotte]

Originally Posted by rnc2mbfl

The numbers are even more drastic when counties are compared:
Wake: 866,410 (2008)
Guilford: 465,931 (2007)

Wait a minute.....
832 sq/mi Wake
649 sq/mi Guilford

If Guilford had an extra 200 sq/mi of land, Guilford would have over 600,000 people. Wake is still larger, but it is certainly not close to being double. 472,216 is Guilford's 2008 population BTW.

Originally Posted by arbyunc

You folks are throwing these numbers around as if bigger is better.

To me, bigger is usually better. That goes for cars, cities, (and in some cases) women too!!!

[North_Raleigh_Guy]

Originally Posted by urbancharlotte

If Guilford had an extra 200 sq/mi of land, Guilford would have over 600,000 people.

Your fuzzy math isn't making the grade. Let's stick to what is reality. These fantasy scenarios are meaningless. You should know better by now. tsk tsk.

[metro.m]

Originally Posted by North_Raleigh_Guy

Your fuzzy math isn't making the grade. Let's stick to what is reality. These fantasy scenarios are meaningless. You should know better by now. tsk tsk.

Exactly. The surrounding area around Guilford is heavily rural. If they were included (which is silly), Guilford county would still be significantly smaller than Wake. One thing is cerntain, it wouldn't be close to 600,000.

Raleigh and Wake county are growing so fast those pop. numbers posted a couple of years ago are long outdated by now. I'm quite sure Wake has now passed the 900,000 mark. Raleigh's city proper is close to 400,000. Something to also think about. Raleigh has a lot of pocket areas within the city limits, that technically aren't the city of Raleigh. These are known as ETJ's. The city actually keeps up with the count of these areas because they will eventually become annexed. Raleigh's population with it's ETJ included is somewhere around 430,000...

Eventually the City of Raleigh itself will surpass Guilford county sometime within the next decade.

[urbancharlotte]

Originally Posted by metro.m

Exactly. The surrounding area around Guilford is heavily rural. If they were included (which is silly), Guilford county would still be significantly smaller than Wake. One thing is cerntain, it wouldn't be close to 600,000.

I was actually thinking about Guilford county getting more land to the South West. As it stands, High Point is in 4 different counties. The extra 200 sq/mi would put ALL of High Point into Guildford county (the same way ALL of Cary is in Wake). There has also been TONS of growth in western Guildford out by the airport. Some of this growth is spilling into Forsyth County. As a matter of fact, density actually increases a little bit as you head west into Forsyth county. I am quite sure Guilford would pick up an extra 150,000 people if the county gained 200 sq./mi to the west and south west of the current county limits.

Let's be honest, Wake is just as rural as Guilford. There is only one county in this state that even comes close to having 2,000 people per sq/mi. And it will be YEARS before we will have two counties in that category.

[rnc2mbfl]

Originally Posted by urbancharlotte

I was actually thinking about Guilford county getting more land to the South West. As it stands, High Point is in 4 different counties. The extra 200 sq/mi would put ALL of High Point into Guildford county (the same way ALL of Cary is in Wake). There has also been TONS of growth in western Guildford out by the airport. Some of this growth is spilling into Forsyth County. As a matter of fact, density actually increases a little bit as you head west into Forsyth county. I am quite sure Guilford would pick up an extra 150,000 people if the county gained 200 sq./mi to the west and south west of the current county limits.

Let's be honest, Wake is just as rural as Guilford. There is only one county in this state that even comes close to having 2,000 people per sq/mi. And it will be YEARS before we will have two counties in that category.

Well, while we are looking at unrealistic scenarios that are frankly meaningless, let's assume that Wake County's lines were drawn a little further to the West. Let's cut off the mostly rural eastern part of the county and replace that with an equal amount of urban Durham County/City..... Then, New Wake County would already be about 1.1 Million. It's all meaningless mumbo jumbo.