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Old 06-14-2015, 04:10 PM
 
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I'm not personally familiar with Moravians, but they came down from Bethlehem, PA. I was in the Philadelphia metro.

A lot of people mistake tolerance for liberal. I have known a great many conservative but tolerant individuals there.

I know about the Quakers in the Triad. I'm descended from one of the early families.
Winston-Salem is the epicenter for Moravians but also has a large number of Quakers as well. Salem was founded by Moravian settlers in 1753, and Moravians are fairly similar to Quakers in their tolerance and conscientious objection to war/violence.

 
Old 06-14-2015, 04:14 PM
 
Location: Southport
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According to who? Who makes this decision?
What "decision" are you referring to?

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How does multiple partners affect heterosexual or homosexual marriage?
It doesn't. I didn't say it did. Why do you ask?

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What about a man-woman-woman marriage? Surely arrangements could also be made for 3 people who are of sound mind and love each other to marry.
As I stated, there are public policy reasons for banning polygamy.
 
Old 06-14-2015, 04:30 PM
 
Location: Lake Norman Area
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What "decision" are you referring to?



It doesn't. I didn't say it did. Why do you ask?



As I stated, there are public policy reasons for banning polygamy.
What are the public policy reasons to ban polygamy?

I would probably agree with whatever reasons you come up with on polygamy. Just the same as there are reasons people see marriage as between one man and one woman.
 
Old 06-14-2015, 04:47 PM
 
Location: The place where the road & the sky collide
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Winston-Salem is the epicenter for Moravians but also has a large number of Quakers as well. Salem was founded by Moravian settlers in 1753, and Moravians are fairly similar to Quakers in their tolerance and conscientious objection to war/violence.
I'm descended from the Quaker who Jamestown was named for. I think that Quakers around Winston-Salem might be from another group who had left the Delaware Valley for Virginia, near the Shenandoah Valley, & later came down to NC.

Old Salem is very nice. But we digress. . .
 
Old 06-14-2015, 05:04 PM
 
Location: Southport
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What are the public policy reasons to ban polygamy?
https://verdict.justia.com/2011/07/2...uld-be-illegal

"Utah has declared polygamy illegal, and for good public-policy reasons. When practiced in a community, it leads to the necessity of each man looking to younger and younger women, and the abandonment of some of the boys to make the odds work for the men."

Ted Olsen, Solicitor General of the US, before the US Supreme Court:

"Olson tried to set up a clear distinction between same-sex marriage and polygamy, suggesting that the kinds of governmental interests that justify a prohibition of polygamy are irrelevant in the case of same-sex marriage.

The Court has said, he contended, that polygamy raises “questions about exploitation, abuse, patriarchy, issues with respect to taxes, inheritance, child custody” and therefore “is an entirely different thing” than same-sex marriage."

Polygamy Is a Step in the Wrong Direction - NYTimes.com

"Polygamy is associated with higher rates of domestic violence, psychological distress, co-wife conflict, and greater control of women, according to research by the Brown University political scientist Rose McDermott."

"...research suggests that children in polygamous families do worse educationally and psychologically than their peers in monogamous families."
 
Old 06-14-2015, 05:18 PM
 
Location: Lake Norman Area
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https://verdict.justia.com/2011/07/2...uld-be-illegal

"Utah has declared polygamy illegal, and for good public-policy reasons. When practiced in a community, it leads to the necessity of each man looking to younger and younger women, and the abandonment of some of the boys to make the odds work for the men."

Ted Olsen, Solicitor General of the US, before the US Supreme Court:

"Olson tried to set up a clear distinction between same-sex marriage and polygamy, suggesting that the kinds of governmental interests that justify a prohibition of polygamy are irrelevant in the case of same-sex marriage.

The Court has said, he contended, that polygamy raises “questions about exploitation, abuse, patriarchy, issues with respect to taxes, inheritance, child custody” and therefore “is an entirely different thing” than same-sex marriage."

Polygamy Is a Step in the Wrong Direction - NYTimes.com

"Polygamy is associated with higher rates of domestic violence, psychological distress, co-wife conflict, and greater control of women, according to research by the Brown University political scientist Rose McDermott."

"...research suggests that children in polygamous families do worse educationally and psychologically than their peers in monogamous families."
Like I said, I agree with you on polygamy.....now take everything you just posted and it can be applied to the defense of traditional marriage 10 or 20 years ago.
 
Old 06-14-2015, 05:25 PM
 
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I'm descended from the Quaker who Jamestown was named for. I think that Quakers around Winston-Salem might be from another group who had left the Delaware Valley for Virginia, near the Shenandoah Valley, & later came down to NC.

Old Salem is very nice. But we digress. . .
The Triad Quakers settled in Greensboro/Guilford County in the mid 1750s and spread through the area over the years. Guilford College was founded by the Society of Friends and Greensboro itself is some king of Southeastern HQ.
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