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Old 02-01-2016, 07:01 PM
 
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Great article from the Washington Post. Read it if you are thinking about being a teacher or have kids in public schools. Basically it is a race to the bottom ending in a wholesale sell out to the private sector.

You voted for this mess.

"In fact, by 2014-15, North Carolina was still spending $100 million less on public education than it had before the economic recession. And over the past ten years, public schools added more than 150,000 additional students. No Republican legislator can honestly say that per pupil expenditures across the state have increased in the last six years.

Teacher salaries fell to near the bottom among all states in the nation and worst in the South after five years with zero pay increases. And when Republicans finally acted to increase teacher pay, they claimed to make the biggest pay hike in state history–but in reality only bumped up paychecks by an average of $270 per year. When you factored inflation into the mix, teachers were losing money."

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...lic-education/

Base salaries for teachers are paid by the state. Here is the base annual pay for teachers, based on years of experience:

0-4 years: $35,000
5-9 years: $36,500
10-14 years: $40,000
15-19 years: $43,500
20-24 years: $46,500
25-plus years: $50,000
Some school systems like Wake County pay teachers a supplement. Johnston County, for example, pays a supplement, so a teacher with 10 years experience would get an extra $3,800 from the county. And a teacher with 20 years experience would get an extra $6,975.

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Old 02-02-2016, 05:56 AM
 
Location: SW Corner of CT
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Got a friend who has a daughter that is graduating College next year in NC, and she wants to stay and get a teaching job there.....I'll forward the article to her Dad...Thanks !
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Old 02-02-2016, 10:20 AM
 
Location: Salisbury,NC
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I have a nephew and his wife both Teachers in NJ, asked about NC and once they heard the pay rates are staying put.
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Old 02-02-2016, 11:52 AM
 
Location: North of South, South of North
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Personally, I am so over the term "war on <insert The flavor of the day>. I am not a big talking points fan. When we lived in NC, the schools were just fine in Wake County. Busing kids for diversity was my only issue, rather than fixing the handful of poor performing schools....which you find in any metro area.
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Old 02-02-2016, 12:40 PM
 
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Personally, I am so over the term "war on <insert The flavor of the day>. I am not a big talking points fan. When we lived in NC, the schools were just fine in Wake County. Busing kids for diversity was my only issue, rather than fixing the handful of poor performing schools....which you find in any metro area.
Personally, I am so over the republican controlled general assembly trying to legislate the great state of NC back into the stone age.

"When we lived in NC"...I'm guessing that was prior to 2010? Things have changed a bit, regardless of one's fondness for talking points.
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Old 02-02-2016, 03:57 PM
 
Location: North of South, South of North
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Personally, I am so over the republican controlled general assembly trying to legislate the great state of NC back into the stone age.

"When we lived in NC"...I'm guessing that was prior to 2010? Things have changed a bit, regardless of one's fondness for talking points.
We left near the end of 2012.
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Old 02-02-2016, 07:20 PM
 
Location: Raleigh NC
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thanks for the 6 month old op-ed piece from someone who taught for 4 years, during years the NCGA was controlled by Dems.

And now is a major gifts officer for a small private college.

ETA: I always like to say in education posts - I do wish we'd reinstate the $10K bump for teachers based on degree/certification/fellows program.
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Old 02-03-2016, 10:38 AM
 
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Bottom line is the current legislature and governor could care less about public education. Let me illustrate. According to US News NC has 10MM people and 21 high schools in the top 1000 whereas MA has 6.7MM people with 43 high schools in the top 1000.
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Old 02-03-2016, 03:08 PM
 
Location: Holly Springs, NC
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Great article from the Washington Post. Read it if you are thinking about being a teacher or have kids in public schools. Basically it is a race to the bottom ending in a wholesale sell out to the private sector.

You voted for this mess.

"In fact, by 2014-15, North Carolina was still spending $100 million less on public education than it had before the economic recession. And over the past ten years, public schools added more than 150,000 additional students. No Republican legislator can honestly say that per pupil expenditures across the state have increased in the last six years.

Teacher salaries fell to near the bottom among all states in the nation and worst in the South after five years with zero pay increases. And when Republicans finally acted to increase teacher pay, they claimed to make the biggest pay hike in state history–but in reality only bumped up paychecks by an average of $270 per year. When you factored inflation into the mix, teachers were losing money."

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...lic-education/

Base salaries for teachers are paid by the state. Here is the base annual pay for teachers, based on years of experience:

0-4 years: $35,000
5-9 years: $36,500
10-14 years: $40,000
15-19 years: $43,500
20-24 years: $46,500
25-plus years: $50,000
Some school systems like Wake County pay teachers a supplement. Johnston County, for example, pays a supplement, so a teacher with 10 years experience would get an extra $3,800 from the county. And a teacher with 20 years experience would get an extra $6,975.
My wife teaches in Wake Co., they pay an 11% supplement.
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Old 02-03-2016, 08:06 PM
 
Location: Raleigh NC
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Bottom line is the current legislature and governor could care less about public education. Let me illustrate. According to US News NC has 10MM people and 21 high schools in the top 1000 whereas MA has 6.7MM people with 43 high schools in the top 1000.
were you trying to say "could NOT care less"?

If you're anti-NCGA, then you REALLY don't want them to care even less.

where do our school systems compare to school systems of similar size? We know that Wake & Mecklenburg are HUGE districts - what are their peers?

How much does MA - by state, not district - spend per pupil? How does that compare? How much is spent on system labor, facilities, teachers, and teaching materials?
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