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Old 07-11-2017, 07:06 PM
 
Location: Raleigh N.C
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Originally Posted by urbancharlotte View Post
I honestly think the choice has unofficially been made. Montreal, Mexico City, and Charlotte (being named explicitly) means that Charlotte is the only US city that is seriously being considered.
Who's going to pay for a MLB stadium?

We canít even get MLS with a stadium that is already constructed.
A quote from Charlotte's number number 2 fanboy lol

 
Old 07-11-2017, 08:41 PM
 
Location: Charlotte
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Who's going to pay for a MLB stadium?

We canít even get MLS with a stadium that is already constructed.
A quote from Charlotte's number number 2 fanboy lol
I think by 2025 Charlotte could get a MLB stadium.
 
Old 07-11-2017, 08:47 PM
 
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Who's going to pay for a MLB stadium?
An ownership group, the city of Charlotte, Meck county, and possibly the state of NC. Keep in mind that MLB expansion is probably 3-7 years away; possibly longer than that.

To be honest, the financing of a ball park and the expansion fee are easier to obtain than an invitation to join the league. That's exactly what Charlotte just got; an unofficial invitation to join the league in the future. 1 Canadian city, 1 US city, and 1 city in Mexico were named. 3 cities, 3 different countries.

With that said, do you really think that Charlotte (wanna-be Atlanta) would pass up a chance at bringing MLB to this city after being invited? Do you think that NC (always in competition with Georgia) wouldn't help Charlotte pull this off?

Also, have you seen the news about Jordan joining an ownership group that wants to purchase the Miami Marlins? This news comes only 1 day after Charlotte's unofficial invite to join the league.

https://www.google.com/amp/www.cbssp...n-bidding/amp/

If nothing else, Jordan's small interests in the Marlins shows that there is 1 billionaire who might be interested in a MLB effort in Charlotte. Jordan got the Hornets name back and he brought the All Star game back to Charlotte after HB2. Also, MLB is a much easier sell in Charlotte than major league soccer.

There's also the Charlotte Knights factor. Since moving to uptown, the Knights are the most popular minor league team in the US. This means that Charlotte is starting to build a baseball culture. Having a local baseball culture is extremely important; probably more important than having a large metro population. Baseball culture is why Milwaukee and St Louis currently supports MLB better than Philly and Miami. An area that loves the game is what baseball needs the most. When 10,000 plus baseball fans show up on opening night for a minor league team, that's a good sign.

The only real problem I see for Charlotte will be the TV market area. MLB teams get a ton of cash from their tv markets that often cover hundreds of miles. Charlotte would have to some how carve out its own market from Atl and DC. Neither of those teams will be happy about this. It makes sense that Charlotte should get Greenville/Spartanburg, the Triad, and the Triangle. However, weird things could happen if Atl and DC puts up a fight over territory.

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Old 07-11-2017, 09:37 PM
 
Location: Raleigh N.C
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Originally Posted by urbancharlotte View Post
An ownership group, the city of Charlotte, Meck county, and possibly the state of NC. Keep in mind that MLB expansion is probably 3-7 years away; possibly longer than that.

To be honest, the financing of a ball park and the expansion fee are easier to obtain than an invitation to join the league. That's exactly what Charlotte just got; an unofficial invitation to join the league in the future. 1 Canadian city, 1 US city, and 1 city in Mexico were named. 3 cities, 3 different countries.

With that said, do you really think that Charlotte (wanna-be Atlanta) would pass up a chance at bringing MLB to this city after being invited? Do you think that NC (always in competition with Georgia) wouldn't help Charlotte pull this off?

Also, have you seen the news about Jordan joining an ownership group that wants to purchase the Miami Marlins? This news comes only 1 day after Charlotte's unofficial invite to join the league.

https://www.google.com/amp/www.cbssp...n-bidding/amp/

If nothing else, Jordan's small interests in the Marlins shows that there is 1 billionaire who might be interested in a MLB effort in Charlotte. Jordan got the Hornets name back and he brought the All Star game back to Charlotte after HB2. Also, MLB is a much easier sell in Charlotte than major league soccer.

There's also the Charlotte Knights factor. Since moving to uptown, the Knights are the most popular minor league team in the US. This means that Charlotte is starting to build a baseball culture. Having a local baseball culture is extremely important; probably more important than having a large metro population. Baseball culture is why Milwaukee and St Louis currently supports MLB better than Philly and Miami. An area that loves the game is what baseball needs the most. When 10,000 plus baseball fans show up on opening night for a minor league team, that's a good sign.

The only real problem I see for Charlotte will be the TV market area. MLB teams get a ton of cash from their tv markets that often cover hundreds of miles. Charlotte would have to some how carve out its own market from Atl and DC. Neither of those teams will be happy about this. It makes sense that Charlotte should get Greenville/Spartanburg, the Triad, and the Triangle. However, weird things could happen if Atl and DC puts up a fight over territory.
They will ask for public money. Your leaders and residents don't seem to be willing to open their wallets anymore. For more fantasy projects for the Uptown crowd,to quote another Charlotte resident. You know the State giving anything is a long shot to put it mildly.

A MLS team in Raleigh and a MLB team in Charlotte would be fine with me. It would do wonders for NC's national image. I'd love to come Uptown and see a big league game. Maybe even a all star game. That being said I think with all Charlotte is trying to do. Property owners are getting a little nervous. How much is too much. New stadiums,new areas,new rail lines. Someone has to pay for these things. They aren't free. Financing will be the roadblock in the end. If the people want it they'll have to pay up. At this point it seems they're tired of paying up.
 
Old 07-12-2017, 12:16 AM
 
Location: Charlotte
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They will ask for public money. Your leaders and residents don't seem to be willing to open their wallets anymore. For more fantasy projects for the Uptown crowd,to quote another Charlotte resident. You know the State giving anything is a long shot to put it mildly.

A MLS team in Raleigh and a MLB team in Charlotte would be fine with me. It would do wonders for NC's national image. I'd love to come Uptown and see a big league game. Maybe even a all star game. That being said I think with all Charlotte is trying to do. Property owners are getting a little nervous. How much is too much. New stadiums,new areas,new rail lines. Someone has to pay for these things. They aren't free. Financing will be the roadblock in the end. If the people want it they'll have to pay up. At this point it seems they're tired of paying up.
Seeing as you referenced me earlier, the issue isn’t not wanting to pay, it’s which to pay for first. The $1 billion+ light rail expansion, hundreds of millions for a new MLB stadium, or millions for MLS? Also, why is Raleigh making no effort for one of these? Both MLS and MLB seem only interested in Charlotte.
 
Old 07-12-2017, 07:07 AM
 
Location: Charlotte
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In 2025 this is how Charlotte and Raleigh may look in population if they maintain current population growth..

Charlotte should be about 1,106,627
Raleigh should be about 520,199

I feel a city of over 1 million could pay for a new MLB stadium.
May be Raleigh could start plans for it first LRT line.
 
Old 07-12-2017, 07:11 AM
 
Location: Washington DC
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In 2025 this is how Charlotte and Raleigh may look in population if they maintain current population growth..

Charlotte should be about 1,106,627
Raleigh should be about 520,199

I feel a city of over 1 million could pay for a new MLB stadium.
May be Raleigh could start plans for it first LRT line.

Or Wake County could pay and it'll probably be over 1,106,627 by then. I don't know the political land scape of how cooperative Wake county furither from Raleigh/Cary would be willing to finance it. Charlotte is so dominate in Mecklenburg, the suburban towns can't really throw their weight around too much. It was Mecklenburg who through money at MLS with the city being cautious
 
Old 07-12-2017, 07:35 AM
 
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We have a date with MLS next week.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.mls...ecutives%3Famp

https://www.google.com/amp/wncn.com/...president/amp/

Looks like MLS will visit Charlotte and Raleigh next week. Charlotte on Tuesday, Raleigh on Wednesday.

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Old 07-12-2017, 01:19 PM
 
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Both MLS and MLB seem only interested in Charlotte.
Seems like MLS is more interested in Raleigh.
 
Old 07-12-2017, 05:29 PM
 
Location: Charlotte
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