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Old 04-24-2016, 08:30 PM
 
Location: Chapelboro
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Okay, it was probably 10 yrs ago that Panera came to town, but really, that's the new thing happening in town that is exciting?

I agree Fayetteville could be so much more. Downtown is better than it used to be, but it will always suffer from being so close to the projects until Grove View Terrace gets rebuilt. Looks like that is on track to happen: http://www.fayobserver.com/news/loca...45883059e.html .
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Old 04-25-2016, 06:59 AM
 
Location: North Carolina
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Okay, it was probably 10 yrs ago that Panera came to town...
gotcha... but really, I want better for Fayetteville... for the sake of the state.
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Old 04-25-2016, 07:27 AM
 
Location: Murphy, North Carolina
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It's also worth mentioning that just to Fayetteville's south is one of North Carolina's poorest counties.
I didn't think Bladen County was that poor. For North Carolina.

Also, like others have said. Fayetteville has good and bad areas. The bad areas you need to stay away from. Spring Lake is ugly.
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Old 04-25-2016, 07:52 AM
 
Location: Pyeongtaek, ROK
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I didn't think Bladen County was that poor. For North Carolina.

Also, like others have said. Fayetteville has good and bad areas. The bad areas you need to stay away from. Spring Lake is ugly.
I think they were referring to Robeson Co. It is pretty dismal, although I think Parkton is pretty.
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Old 04-25-2016, 08:01 AM
 
Location: Chapelboro
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Cumberland County borders both Bladen County and Robeson County to its south. Both have very high levels of poverty, over 25% of households. Robeson has some of the highest poverty levels in the country, not just the state.

North Carolina Poverty Rate by County

https://www.census.gov/did/www/saipe...t_Poor2013.pdf

Lumberton ranked as poorest city in America | WBTW.com
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Old 04-25-2016, 04:45 PM
 
Location: Duluth, GA
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I think they were referring to Robeson Co. It is pretty dismal, although I think Parkton is pretty.
As a matter of fact it has very high crime there too
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Old 04-25-2016, 06:23 PM
 
Location: Pyeongtaek, ROK
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One problem that Fayetteville may have difficulty in overcoming is that many of its residents (transient military) who are counted in the population don't really want to be there or feel any need to push for civic improvements since they don't plan to make it home. If you only plan on being somewhere for 3-5 years, how much are you going to invest in the future of a place?

Fayetteville has made great improvements since my first time there (1995-99) and is slowly trying to become a better place to live. Traffic is a problem, since I don't believe they updated the light cycles since the most recent influxes of people. The triangle around the mall is an unholy mess that I try to avoid anytime around rush hour for my sanity and blood pressure's sake. But there are nice places to go in Fayetteville and the surrounding areas to get away from the mess. Raven Rock park and Weymouth Woods are both very nice and relaxing.

Really the best 'fix' would be to encourage industries to set up shop in town that don't rely on the military or federal government. While I don't think Bragg is going away anytime soon, a little economic diversity would certainly be a good thing. If Raleigh keeps growing and its real estate keeps getting more expensive, in several years the Fayetteville area might also become a very cheap satellite community for people who work in Raleigh but want to live somewhere cheaper and drive.
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Old 04-26-2016, 05:20 AM
 
Location: North Carolina
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One problem that Fayetteville may have difficulty in overcoming is that many of its residents (transient military) who are counted in the population don't really want to be there or feel any need to push for civic improvements since they don't plan to make it home. If you only plan on being somewhere for 3-5 years, how much are you going to invest in the future of a place?

Fayetteville has made great improvements since my first time there (1995-99) and is slowly trying to become a better place to live. Traffic is a problem, since I don't believe they updated the light cycles since the most recent influxes of people. The triangle around the mall is an unholy mess that I try to avoid anytime around rush hour for my sanity and blood pressure's sake. But there are nice places to go in Fayetteville and the surrounding areas to get away from the mess. Raven Rock park and Weymouth Woods are both very nice and relaxing.

Really the best 'fix' would be to encourage industries to set up shop in town that don't rely on the military or federal government. While I don't think Bragg is going away anytime soon, a little economic diversity would certainly be a good thing. If Raleigh keeps growing and its real estate keeps getting more expensive, in several years the Fayetteville area might also become a very cheap satellite community for people who work in Raleigh but want to live somewhere cheaper and drive.
Good points. the underlined jumped out at me...

I believe the military folks play a huge role in how stagnant things are ... but I still question the city's leadership and Chamber for not taking the helm. Part of the Chamber's mission is to "foster diverse, innovative business initiatives"






Also, the commuter concept could come into play in about 8-10 years. the drive to Fayetteville from Raleigh really isn't that bad.
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Old 04-26-2016, 08:45 AM
 
Location: Coastal Georgia
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Fayetteville hired a deputy city manager who was fired from Savannah and another job before that. If this is the caliber of people who are running things, what else can Fayetteville expect?
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Old 04-26-2016, 09:17 AM
 
Location: North Carolina
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Fayetteville hired a deputy city manager who was fired from Savannah and another job before that. If this is the caliber of people who are running things, what else can Fayetteville expect?


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