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You make it sound broad-based across departments versus an isolated case. It's obvious the anti-UNC crowd want to magnify the issue beyond the problem. The "Carowhina" way I guess? It was identified, staff or faculty removed.
Lol, it doesn't matter, those who don't like UNC will never come to terms with any level of admission to guilt or levied penalty.
Well...just stating what is known...besides the rogue professor setting up Indy classes that didn't meet and his rogue assistant who was improperly grading papers...you had the rogue academic support advisers orchestrating the athletes into the classes and the rogue faculty rep orchestrating a cover-up of the known classes with the first couple of "inside investigations".
Its an athletic scandal that used fraudulent academics to keep players eligible to play....and, I'll say it...provide a fraudulent curriculum for primarily black students admitted to UNC to graduate.
Here's the crazy thing...besides this probation from SACS...there have been no penalties. Everyone involved that is now gone walked away with their pension in hand or another job.
Could, but it won't. NCAA was waiting to see what the accreditation body was going to do before imparting their own sanctions. Since SACSCOC only put UNC on probation due to their "dummy" classes, NCAA has no real juice to squeeze here to impart athletic sanctions.
UNC got lucky.
This.
And UNC is flagship Uni of the state as other posters have mentioned, and it's an engine for the state in so many areas. No way in hell accreditation is lost. A whole lot of madness would ensue if that ever happened.
You make it sound broad-based across departments versus an isolated case. It's obvious the anti-UNC crowd want to magnify the issue beyond the problem. The "Carowhina" way I guess? It was identified, staff or faculty removed.
Lol, it doesn't matter, those who don't like UNC will never come to terms with any level of admission to guilt or levied penalty.
Just own it.
I really don't care, other than to point out the absurdity of claiming otherwise. I don't expect anything to change... "The system" and all. Good luck next year, the path is clear...
I really don't care, other than to point out the absurdity of claiming otherwise. I don't expect anything to change... "The system" and all. Good luck next year, the path is clear...
It's already been owned, a very thorough unbiased internal investigation was conducted by a 3rd party, findings submitted to the NCAA and provided to the school. The school did a second round of house cleaning in that department, get over it and move on. No matter the penalty, it'll never be enough for the anti-UNC crowd...own up to that.
Well...just stating what is known...besides the rogue professor setting up Indy classes that didn't meet and his rogue assistant who was improperly grading papers...you had the rogue academic support advisers orchestrating the athletes into the classes and the rogue faculty rep orchestrating a cover-up of the known classes with the first couple of "inside investigations".
Its an athletic scandal that used fraudulent academics to keep players eligible to play....and, I'll say it...provide a fraudulent curriculum for primarily black students admitted to UNC to graduate.
Here's the crazy thing...besides this probation from SACS...there have been no penalties. Everyone involved that is now gone walked away with their pension in hand or another job.
I guess it really is time for everyone to do it.
It is not, all schools steer students and student athletes to these type of classes and still do. Lol, so the requirement is to submit two papers of high "quality" work instead of one to meet academic rigor. There are plenty of dumb ass white athletes at these "prestigious" institutions as well, doing a better job of hiding it though.
The joke of the matter is the NCAA and the so-called "student" athlete. The only reason it will continue at ALL institutions of higher learning is due to the big business that is CFB and CBB.
It is not, all schools steer students and student athletes to these type of classes and still do. Lol, so the requirement is to submit two papers of high "quality" work instead of one to meet academic rigor. There are plenty of dumb ass white athletes at these "prestigious" institutions as well, doing a better job of hiding it though.
The joke of the matter is the NCAA and the so-called "student" athlete. The only reason it will continue at ALL institutions of higher learning is due to the big business that is CFB and CBB.
I'm not on the anti-UNC bandwagon...but you and I know that is BS.
In fact, the BOG made all UNC system schools investigate to see if this was going on anywhere else...and it was not. They were all cleared.
You are obviously either aligned with the school or a fan. That's fine. Doesn't change the reality of the situation though.
I have never heard of a secretary grading a paper and giving out grades at another school. And the professor calling that a class. And the athletic support staff steering athletes to that person. And the faculty Rep telling that person what grade they need to stay eligible. It may happen at other places, but we have yet to see it. Most publications have called it the worst academic scandal in the history of college athletics.
"A new documentary about campus sexual assault features former UNC-Chapel Hill students whose federal complaint prompted significant changes at the university."
It is on Netflix and worth a watch. According to the documentary your daughter stands a 1.9 in 10 chance of being a victim of sexual assault on campus and the university or local police doing nothing. The universities that "investigate" sexual assault and do nothing about it or worse yet, blame the victim, is inexcusable.
I'm not on the anti-UNC bandwagon...but you and I know that is BS.
In fact, the BOG made all UNC system schools investigate to see if this was going on anywhere else...and it was not. They were all cleared.
You are obviously either aligned with the school or a fan. That's fine. Doesn't change the reality of the situation though.
I have never heard of a secretary grading a paper and giving out grades at another school. And the professor calling that a class. And the athletic support staff steering athletes to that person. And the faculty Rep telling that person what grade they need to stay eligible. It may happen at other places, but we have yet to see it. Most publications have called it the worst academic scandal in the history of college athletics.
It is what it is.
Just very objective and no other school had a 3rd party in-depth investigation to that level. If so, they would've uncovered much worse than what happened at UNC. Given the big business that is CFB and CBB and the favoritism provided to "student" athletes at ALL schools, the idea of mixing academics with big time college sports is a joke. That is the reality of the situation and it will continue at ALL schools....let the TA/GA give the grade which is rather common, let the professor keep researching, and the cash register keep counting.
It'd be nice to believe what happened at UNC is an isolated case but the tooth fairy and Santa Claus ain't real....reality check. It's rampant and everywhere, some schools are just better at masking the mess.
Pretty soon ALL college sports fans will be aligned with the cash cow schools, because the rest of us... well, we don't watch college sports anymore. Why bother? There's not even an air of impartiality.
At the end of the day I THANK UNC for bringing to light the absurdity of "collegiate" athletics and the "scholar/athlete" myth. It's a joke, like the WWE... for entertainment only.
Pretty soon ALL college sports fans will be aligned with the cash cow schools, because the rest of us... well, we don't watch college sports anymore. Why bother? There's not even an air of impartiality.
At the end of the day I THANK UNC for bringing to light the absurdity of "collegiate" athletics and the "scholar/athlete" myth. It's a joke, like the WWE... for entertainment only.
True Scholar-Athletes go to Duke, Stanford, Notre Dame and occasionally to a few other well heeled (no pun intended) institutions where athletics have found a way to succeed in conjunction with academic rigor.
No. I am neither a Duke homer nor a homer of the other institutions.
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