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Old 05-04-2016, 07:19 PM
 
Location: College Hill
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The kind of moronic liberalism demonstrated in this thread is exactly responsible for the rise of Donald Trump. Maybe some of the armchair warriors on both sides need to back off a little.

Really? You think? This thread seems very sober and informative. And as you are playing the farcical came of "on the other hand, Both Sides Do It" where's your slap at the extremist GOP? I mean, one hand washes the other and both hands wash the face, no?
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Old 05-04-2016, 07:30 PM
 
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Default Why dosne't the Justice department speak up about other states?

When NY violated the 2nd amendment by imposing the "safe act" aka the unsafe act why didn't the justice department say anything? But now they are saying north carolina laws are illegal?
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Old 05-04-2016, 07:32 PM
 
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Cool thread bruh
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Old 05-04-2016, 07:43 PM
Status: "North of Palm Trees, South of High Taxes" (set 13 days ago)
 
Location: Noth Caccalacca
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When NY violated the 2nd amendment by imposing the "safe act" aka the unsafe act why didn't the justice department say anything? But now they are saying north carolina laws are illegal?
Simple answer - A Federal District Court judge upheld most of NY's Safe Act, while no Federal District Court judge is going to uphold many of the provisions of HB2.
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Old 05-04-2016, 08:03 PM
 
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Boy this current legislature doesn't like being told they were wrong.

And when you are wrong, your first instinct is to shoot the messenger.

Maybe this legislature should start acting like the general populace aren't idiots. Its easy to see what's happening here.

Please....stop the bleeding.
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Old 05-04-2016, 08:10 PM
 
Location: Dublin, OH
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Because HB 2 is unconstitutional and the Safe Act is Constitutional...pretty dumb question
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Old 05-04-2016, 09:06 PM
 
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Boy this current legislature doesn't like being told they were wrong.

And when you are wrong, your first instinct is to shoot the messenger.

Maybe this legislature should start acting like the general populace aren't idiots. Its easy to see what's happening here.

Please....stop the bleeding.
Unfortunately, they don't seem bright enough to understand a Federal court just threw them a lifeline to get out of this mess. If they were smart they would take it and then rail against Federal judicial activism and intervention in local matters and run their reelection campaigns making that a central issue.
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Old 05-05-2016, 08:23 AM
 
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Default EEOC: Restricting bathrooms for transgender employees violates Title VII

Fact Sheet: Bathroom Access Rights for Transgender Employees Under Title VII of the Civil Rights Act of 1964

"Transgender" refers to people whose gender identity and/or expression is different from the sex assigned to them at birth (e.g. the sex listed on an original birth certificate). The term transgender woman typically is used to refer to someone who was assigned the male sex at birth but who identifies as a female. Likewise, the term transgender man typically is used to refer to someone who was assigned the female sex at birth but who identifies as male. A person does not need to undergo any medical procedure to be considered a transgender man or a transgender woman.

In addition to other federal laws, the U.S. Equal Employment Opportunity Commission (EEOC) enforces Title VII of the Civil Rights Act of 1964, which prohibits employment discrimination based on race, color, national origin, religion, and sex (including pregnancy, gender identity, and sexual orientation). Title VII applies to all federal, state, and local government agencies in their capacity as employers, and to all private employers with 15 or more employees.

In Macy v. Dep't of Justice, EEOC Appeal No. 0120120821, 2012 WL 1435995 (Apr. 12, 2012), the EEOC ruled that discrimination based on transgender status is sex discrimination in violation of Title VII, and in Lusardi v. Dep't of the Army, EEOC Appeal No. 0120133395, 2015 WL 1607756 (Mar. 27, 2015), the EEOC held that:
denying an employee equal access to a common restroom corresponding to the employee's gender identity is sex discrimination;
an employer cannot condition this right on the employee undergoing or providing proof of surgery or any other medical procedure; and,
an employer cannot avoid the requirement to provide equal access to a common restroom by restricting a transgender employee to a single-user restroom instead (though the employer can make a single-user restroom available to all employees who might choose to use it).

Contrary state law is not a defense under Title VII. 42 U.S.C. § 2000e-7.
In G. ex rel. Grimm v. Gloucester Cty. Sch. Bd., -- F.3d --, 2016 WL 1567467 (4th Cir. 2016), the United States Court of Appeals for the Fourth Circuit reached a similar conclusion by deferring to the Department of Education's position that the prohibition against sex discrimination under Title IX requires educational institutions to give transgender students restroom and locker access consistent with their gender identity.

Gender-based stereotypes, perceptions, or comfort level must not interfere with the ability of any employee to work free from discrimination, including harassment. As the Commission observed in Lusardi: "[S]upervisory or co-worker confusion or anxiety cannot justify discriminatory terms and conditions of employment. Title VII prohibits discrimination based on sex whether motivated by hostility, by a desire to protect people of a certain gender, by gender stereotypes, or by the desire to accommodate other people's prejudices or discomfort."

Like all non-discrimination provisions, these protections address conduct in the workplace, not personal beliefs. Thus, these protections do not require any employee to change beliefs. Rather, they seek to ensure appropriate workplace treatment so that all employees may perform their jobs free from discrimination.

Further information from other federal government agencies includes: A Guide to Restroom Access for Transgender Workers, issued by the U.S. Department of Labor's Occupational Safety and Health Administration (OSHA), https://www.osha.gov/Publications/OSHA3795.pdf, and Guidance Regarding the Employment of Transgender Individuals in the Federal Workplace, https://www.opm.gov/policy-data-over...tity-guidance/, issued by the U.S. Office of Personnel Management.

https://content.govdelivery.com/acco...letins/146d151
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Old 05-05-2016, 08:59 AM
 
Location: Charlotte, NC
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Intersting how McCory went from being a somewhat moderate Mayor to becoming a governor who's just as extreme as his GA.

He's already as good as gone in November. At least save some dignity and not allow NC schools to lose $800M.
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Old 05-05-2016, 09:49 AM
 
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I think a lot of people who are so vehemently opposed to transgender rights should take some time to research ambiguous genitialia, the rate of occurrence, how it has traditionally been addressed, and some of the challenges it presents.

You may find your opinion changes to some degree.
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