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Old 05-11-2016, 03:10 PM
 
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What's crazy is none of the National news stations are bringing up the real issues of this bill. The average person who isnt on this website to get up to date info on this issue still thinks this is only a restroom issue
I and most of the people I know that don't like HB2, have issues with the portions other than the bathroom and locker room requirement. The reason that only that part is getting all the play now is that it's the specific component that the DOJ is concerning itself with.
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Old 05-11-2016, 10:02 PM
 
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News report tonight was how lobbyist are being told to tell their clients to shut up about HB2 if they want to continue doing business with the NC legislature. A couple of rotund legislators got on camera and insisted they knew nothing about this but they both looked like they were fibbing.

Five lawsuits have been filed. Five.
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Old 05-12-2016, 12:48 AM
 
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News report tonight was how lobbyist are being told to tell their clients to shut up about HB2 if they want to continue doing business with the NC legislature. A couple of rotund legislators got on camera and insisted they knew nothing about this but they both looked like they were fibbing.

Five lawsuits have been filed. Five.

I guess lying isn't on their no-no list. Hypocrites.
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Old 05-12-2016, 06:56 AM
 
Location: Danville, VA
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News report tonight was how lobbyist are being told to tell their clients to shut up about HB2 if they want to continue doing business with the NC legislature. A couple of rotund legislators got on camera and insisted they knew nothing about this but they both looked like they were fibbing.
What's even more comical is according to this article, Tim Moore says that "Retribution politics is not a practice we engage in". He's full of ****. That's practically all they've done. Oh, it gets better. Mike Hager says that he wants to end state tax breaks for American Airlines, NASCAR, Google, Apple and Facebook. He claims that it has nothing to do with the fact that they all oppose HB2.

Lobbyists: Lawmakers turn up pressure to quiet HB2 opponents :: WRAL.com
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Old 05-12-2016, 09:53 AM
 
Location: SDL/PDX/RDU
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What's even more comical is according to this article, Tim Moore says that "Retribution politics is not a practice we engage in". He's full of ****. That's practically all they've done. Oh, it gets better. Mike Hager says that he wants to end state tax breaks for American Airlines, NASCAR, Google, Apple and Facebook. He claims that it has nothing to do with the fact that they all oppose HB2.

Lobbyists: Lawmakers turn up pressure to quiet HB2 opponents :: WRAL.com
The businesses will probably end up having to make PAC contributions supporting Tim Moore and his gang in order to keep the tax status and such they already have in place.

If I were in their position I'd rather deal with the Mafia, at least the mob guys have some degree of professionalism and ethics.
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Old 05-12-2016, 10:34 AM
 
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What's even more comical is according to this article, Tim Moore says that "Retribution politics is not a practice we engage in". He's full of ****. That's practically all they've done. Oh, it gets better. Mike Hager says that he wants to end state tax breaks for American Airlines, NASCAR, Google, Apple and Facebook. He claims that it has nothing to do with the fact that they all oppose HB2.

Lobbyists: Lawmakers turn up pressure to quiet HB2 opponents :: WRAL.com


And still there is a very large amount of people in NC that support their actions. Hopefully enough will wake up and speak up before these nutjobs destroy the state.
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Old 05-12-2016, 10:41 AM
 
Location: NC High Country
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And still there is a very large amount of people in NC that support their actions. Hopefully enough will wake up and speak up before these nutjobs destroy the state.
My husband is way more conservative than I am (we joke sometimes about having a mixed marriage) and even he is disgusted with all that's going on and believes that HB2 should be repealed... should never have existed.
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Old 05-12-2016, 11:32 AM
 
Location: University City, Philadelphia
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A few observations ...

The bathroom provisions in HB2 are unenforceable. It is a symbolic, but a worthless measure.

HB2 appears to be an act of political pandering ... scapegoating transgender people, but also all gay and lesbian and bisexual people who lost employment and housing protections that were put in place in Charlotte and other cities in NC.

The "dangerous" bill that the Charlotte City Council enacted was no different that similar bills that already exist in big cities like Washington, Chicago, New York, Seattle, Philadelphia, Boston, etc. None of these cities reported a spike in public restroom crimes.

As each day passes we are reading in the news nothing but bad outcomes for NC ... convention and conference cancellations, the possibility of a boycott in the sports world, cancellations of concerts and entertainment events, big banks and business deciding against expansion in NC, cities and states all over the US banning non-essential official travel to NC, the Department of Justice suing the state for civil rights violation.
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Old 05-12-2016, 11:38 AM
 
Location: The place where the road & the sky collide
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A few observations ...

The bathroom provisions in HB2 are unenforceable. It is a symbolic, but a worthless measure.

HB2 appears to be an act of political pandering ... scapegoating transgender people, but also all gay and lesbian and bisexual people who lost employment and housing protections that were put in place in Charlotte and other cities in NC.

The "dangerous" bill that the Charlotte City Council enacted was no different that similar bills that already exist in big cities like Washington, Chicago, New York, Seattle, Philadelphia, Boston, etc. None of these cities reported a spike in public restroom crimes.

As each day passes we are reading in the news nothing but bad outcomes for NC ... convention and conference cancellations, the possibility of a boycott in the sports world, cancellations of concerts and entertainment events, big banks and business deciding against expansion in NC, cities and states all over the US banning non-essential official travel to NC, the Department of Justice suing the state for civil rights violation.
I wish that some of the protests would name the rest of HB2 as well.
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Old 05-12-2016, 12:13 PM
 
Location: Noth Caccalacca
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The businesses will probably end up having to make PAC contributions supporting Tim Moore and his gang in order to keep the tax status and such they already have in place.

If I were in their position I'd rather deal with the Mafia, at least the mob guys have some degree of professionalism and ethics.
Maybe it's time to hire a few mobsters to make sure Moore and Berger "sleep with the fishes"!
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