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Old 05-29-2016, 01:08 AM
 
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Because I'm referencing documents written by lawyers whose SOLE job is to provide accurate information to the City. A lot rides on these legal briefs.

I happen to know a couple City Attorneys. They are very intelligent and know their subject well. When they make mistakes it has the potential to cost the City millions.

Again, if it's such a gaping loophole as you state, show me a legal analysis demonstrating as such. I've looked... I can't find anything. Just wondering where YOU are getting YOUR information. I'm providing my sources for critique.
Europeans and North Americans want separate toilets and change rooms for girls and women from all other gender identities.

Is that difficult for anyone to understand?

The ObamaToiletgate is very shortsighted. The new laws need to recognize that women and girls will continue to enjoy the privacy they have always enjoyed from men; which now includes men who identify as women. Education funding will not be withheld from girls and women who do not comply with the ObamaToiletgate ruling that men who identify as women can now use the little girls room.

Seriously. Obama has made a ridiculous mistake simply by involving himself in toilet use, let alone making a decree about men in dresses using the little girls room. Exactly how far is he removed from reality?
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Old 05-29-2016, 04:57 AM
 
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Seriously. The NCGA has made a ridiculous mistake simply by involving itself in toilet use, let alone making a decree about men in dresses using the little girls room. Exactly how far are they removed from reality?

Fixed.
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Old 05-29-2016, 06:00 AM
 
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Seriously. The Charlotte City Council has made a ridiculous mistake simply by involving itself in toilet use, let alone making a decree about men in dresses using the little girls room. Exactly how far are they removed from reality?
Fixed.

We all know who caused this whole mess. Don't forget that Charlotte's law forced businesses to comply in addition to tax funded facilities. HB2 does not. They were warned that the NCGA would take action to remedy the public safety problem they were creating. Instead of taking the time to get the wording right, they pushed ahead, thinking they were calling the state's bluff.

Obama's threats only strengthened the hand of the NCGA and governor by creating a national consensus from at least 15 states (so far) pushing back on his reinterpretation of two congressional acts implemented in the 1960's. His attempt to bypass the authority of congress to create laws by rewriting existing ones isn't going to work out in the long run.

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Old 05-29-2016, 06:59 AM
 
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Fixed.

We all know who caused this whole mess. Don't forget that Charlotte's law forced businesses to comply in addition to tax funded facilities. HB2 does not. They were warned that the NCGA would take action to remedy the public safety problem they were creating. Instead of taking the time to get the wording right, they pushed ahead, thinking they were calling the state's bluff.

Obama's threats only strengthened the hand of the NCGA and governor by creating a national consensus from at least 15 states (so far) pushing back on his reinterpretation of two congressional acts implemented in the 1960's. His attempt to bypass the authority of congress to create laws by rewriting existing ones isn't going to work out in the long run.
Ironic, your complaints. Considering NC reached all the way down to CITY politics to enforce their vision of morality.

15 whole states, huh?
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Old 05-29-2016, 07:17 AM
 
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Ironic, your complaints. Considering NC reached all the way down to CITY politics to enforce their vision of morality.
"Reaching down" isn't the problem. NC passed a law. Obama reinterpreted two laws, bypassing both congress and the courts. Understand the difference?
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Old 05-29-2016, 08:26 AM
 
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"Reaching down" isn't the problem. NC passed a law. Obama reinterpreted two laws, bypassing both congress and the courts. Understand the difference?
NC passed an illegal law, in splendid backwood-inbred-intolerant fashion.

In doing so, they reached down to every jurisdiction in the State to tell their citizens that Big Brother knows best. Well guess what? Big brother still loves at home in his momma's trailer. "Big Brother" barely keeps his job at Denton's Used Auto Wholesale Mall sweeping the parking lot because he stays up all night gnashing his teeth on Stormfront and conspiracy websites. "Big Brother" has an IQ of 83, he doesn't know best... and now everyone knows just how ignorant he really is.

Now "Big Brother" is challenging someone to a trivia challenge. One big problem for "Big Brother" though... THIS quiz isn't about bible lore and bigoted traditions.
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Old 05-29-2016, 08:53 AM
 
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NC passed an illegal law, in splendid backwood-inbred-intolerant fashion
Illegal based on what?

The only illegal action taken on this issue has been through Obama's DOJ mandate. Title IX and Title VII are gender discrimination laws. Not gender "identity" laws. If he wants to change that, he'll have to go through congress and amend the law. That's how it works.
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Old 05-29-2016, 12:15 PM
 
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Illegal based on what?

The only illegal action taken on this issue has been through Obama's DOJ mandate. Title IX and Title VII are gender discrimination laws. Not gender "identity" laws. If he wants to change that, he'll have to go through congress and amend the law. That's how it works.
Ok, Big Brother.
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Old 05-29-2016, 12:23 PM
 
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Illegal based on what?

The only illegal action taken on this issue has been through Obama's DOJ mandate. Title IX and Title VII are gender discrimination laws. Not gender "identity" laws. If he wants to change that, he'll have to go through congress and amend the law. That's how it works.
It's up to the courts to determine what is illegal or unconstitutional, not Congress. That's how it works.
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Old 05-29-2016, 12:43 PM
 
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It's up to the courts to determine what is illegal or unconstitutional, not Congress. That's how it works.
It's only up to the courts in that they will rule if the law included "gender identity" under the concept of gender. They won't, because it's clear that "gender" did not include "gender identity" in these bills, passed in 1960's. After that, it's up to congress to decide what, if anything, gets amended.
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